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aircraft bomb or fake?
- Thread starter William49
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Interesting finding. Where from?
Strange tail units, separated linked by metal straps to the body of the bomb were sometimes seen in the 1930s:
here's an example from a bomb devised for the KNIL:
To the best of my knowledge, the Jouhandau 75mm projectile had a wooden tail attached by metallic straps ("tenons") to the body - but I have never seen a photograph of it, the mortar itself being relatively scarce.
For the lovers of ww1 Trench artillery, there are 2 very nice, of surprising good quality, video documentaries taken during the French army trials of the various materials, probably in 1917:
https://imagesdefense.gouv.fr/media/catalog/product/video/87753.mp4
https://imagesdefense.gouv.fr/media/catalog/product/video/87754.mp4
(the second one is the best)
Strange tail units, separated linked by metal straps to the body of the bomb were sometimes seen in the 1930s:
here's an example from a bomb devised for the KNIL:
To the best of my knowledge, the Jouhandau 75mm projectile had a wooden tail attached by metallic straps ("tenons") to the body - but I have never seen a photograph of it, the mortar itself being relatively scarce.
For the lovers of ww1 Trench artillery, there are 2 very nice, of surprising good quality, video documentaries taken during the French army trials of the various materials, probably in 1917:
https://imagesdefense.gouv.fr/media/catalog/product/video/87753.mp4
https://imagesdefense.gouv.fr/media/catalog/product/video/87754.mp4
(the second one is the best)
A photograph of a box of shells for the Jouhandau Deslandres mortar shopwing their characteristic tails - There is indeed a marked similitude with the pics posted by William49 - However, as I said, I have not seen any photograph of the whole projectile.
Correction to my former post - the "Cours d'artrillerie de tranchee" (https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k65565612) gives the tail of the Jouhandeau projectiles (both 120m m and 75mm) as made of sheet metal with holes cut into it to form the "straps". There is even a drawing of these projectile on page 37 (the 75mm shell is the one on the right with its 37mm booster):
Correction to my former post - the "Cours d'artrillerie de tranchee" (https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bpt6k65565612) gives the tail of the Jouhandeau projectiles (both 120m m and 75mm) as made of sheet metal with holes cut into it to form the "straps". There is even a drawing of these projectile on page 37 (the 75mm shell is the one on the right with its 37mm booster):
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What wonderful movies Dreamk. Lot of trials and experimenals mortars and rounds !!
I'm a very very happy man this evening. I watched both films quickly and there is some amazing stuff !!
For example, in the first movie :
-2:50 : what a strange projectile (maybe made by Brandt)
-06:20 : Incredible. I try to find documentations on these grenades because I found one a long time ago in the Somme.
Very strange cylindrical projectile. The launcher could be "mitrailleuse Mamet" or something like this.
We can see guys loading a magazine with these grenades. Then grenades are thrown by centrifugal force. Strange machine.
In the second movie :
-09:04
Very rare 10cm pneumatic Brandt. 60mm is well known but 10cm is very rare. Maybe only a trial.
I also found one projectile years ago in the Somme (ww1 trial area).
Amazing.
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Surprise, surprise....I was looking last night at a French site showing among others photographs of objects in the collection of the French "musee de l'Armee" (that are not shown on this museum site !) and found these:
Mortier de 75 mm Jouhandeau-Deslandres modèle 1917 with its munition
Obus de 75 mm JD modèle 1918 Hauteur 522 m Diamètre 0.075 m
What is funny is that its is among the very few shells artifacts shown on this site - but there is a plethora of other interesting things - well worth a visit:
https://art.rmngp.fr/fr/library/artworks
Wnglish version of the site:
https://art.rmngp.fr/en/library/artworks
Pay attention to the fact that the search on the English version of the site accepts only words in English words, and on the French site, only words in French (my original search was "parachute" so I did not pay attention to this initially as the word is identical in both languages)
Mortier de 75 mm Jouhandeau-Deslandres modèle 1917 with its munition
Obus de 75 mm JD modèle 1918 Hauteur 522 m Diamètre 0.075 m
What is funny is that its is among the very few shells artifacts shown on this site - but there is a plethora of other interesting things - well worth a visit:
https://art.rmngp.fr/fr/library/artworks
Wnglish version of the site:
https://art.rmngp.fr/en/library/artworks
Pay attention to the fact that the search on the English version of the site accepts only words in English words, and on the French site, only words in French (my original search was "parachute" so I did not pay attention to this initially as the word is identical in both languages)