APDS 17 Pounder

[jvollenberg]

Any ideas on who and what this is? I know it is a 17 pounder APDS. I am trying to get the country and nomenclature.

Also, and data on the item would be nice too ...

And if nothing else, these are some nice images to share.

DIA: 80MM (full round)
DIA: 59MM (Sabot)
Length: 203MM (Sabot With tracer)
Length: 201MM (full up item)

Joe

 

[Weasel]

Hi Joe,
Have a look at this thread for some info, this one has 17pr 77mm marked on it as well. http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/54261-17-pr-APDS-Question?highlight=17pr+77mm Best regards Weasel

 

[SG500]

Any ideas on who and what this is? I know it is a 17 pounder APDS. I am trying to get the country and nomenclature.

Also, and data on the item would be nice too ...

And if nothing else, these are some nice images to share.

DIA: 80MM (full round)
DIA: 59MM (Sabot)
Length: 203MM (Sabot With tracer)
Length: 201MM (full up item)

Joe

Nice items Joe.
The core on its own looks more like a 20 pounder than a 17 pounder, the profile looks wrong for a 17 pounder unless its the angle of the photograph.
Dave.

 

[jvollenberg]

I think it is the angle. When we took the pictures we made sure they went together.

So by the other thread, this is a MK 1?

Joe

 

[TimG]

The projectile was made by JMB - James Mackie and Son, Belfast.

TimG

 

[MINENAZ16]

Diagram of 17pr APDS MK1 for example

 

[AE501]

Hopping between the thread and the link things fall into place.

6pr 7cwt APDS was introduced in March 1944, followed in August 1944 by 17pr APDS.

77mm for the Comet did not appear until near the end of 1944, at which time it was decided that 77mm should be added to the projectile description, because the same shot was used for both (this was the case with some of the other types of projectile and it says it in the pamphlet).

Hazord made the point that the red ring was missing, but that is an in-service requirement and as this is an experimental APDS not intended for in service-use there is no need for it. In any case there may not have been a tracer fitted for the experiment.

 

[Przezdzieblo]

Tappered projectile body was typical for Canadian pot sabots.


P.S.
Check this topic.

 

[jvollenberg]

Here is a Canadian Version ... although I am not sure what makes it Canadian.

Joe

 

[TimG]

APDS/T.QF.17PR 77MM.CDN.MK1 - CDN: Canadian

TimG