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Whilst I cannot identify the specific weapons these are used in I can tell you they are "Tubes Vent Firing" or the initiating charge for most likely a Naval Gun of big calibre-these cartridges provide a flash that ignites the main bagged charge-I see also that one is electrically fired and the other appears to be percussion which is perhaps the rarer of the two?
Nice items but we need a Naval expert to get a specific ID !
As for the two screwed in items ??????????????????
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