Druckzunder 35 B

[Big Dave]

Just arrived in the post a Druckzunder 35 B ,are these as common as the A type? were they all made from brass? ,any info welcome .Has anyone got a spare safety pin for the 35 for sale ? regards Dave

 

[Tmine35]

What I have found from WW2 sites this brass type is much scarcer than aluminium one.
I do not have spare safety pins for this one but I have plenty for the aluminium fuze.

 

[Big Dave]

Hi T thanks for the quick reply , were the A and B s manufactured at the same time ? this B is stamped with 2 Rs [1 reserved] 189/37

 

[waffenamt]

Ey up Dave,
The 'R's represent 'Richard Rincker',the manufacturer.

best

waff

 

[Big Dave]

Evening Waff thanks for the info ,ive just spent 20 minutes looking through Michael Heidler book and couldnt find it ![nothing to do with the book which is great ,just me been useless].I noticed Rinker had a few different codes and factories do you know what else they made

 

[Tmine35]

Here are better specialists for these items than myselft, but all brass ones I have seen have had earlier date than any of the aluminium ones I have seen.

 

[waffenamt]

Hi Dave,
Ive seen the RR stamps on grenade heads and small brass fuzes for air-dropped flares.

cheers

waff

 

[Grenademan2005]

Hello:
All items you find from German ordnance made of brass are earlier than the aluminium ones. Germans started using brass for everything, but brass is a scarce and expensive material, so they changed in the early 40s to aluminium, bakelite, zinc, etc. Zinc was late war. You can find Richard Rinker in a ton of items: all type of fuzes for mines and grenades, grenades, mines, tin and cardboard boxes for the fuzes, metal cases for grenades and mines, etc. Reino, dont be modest, you know very well your stuff. :tinysmile_twink_t:

 

[sudelmuk]

Ey up Dave,
The 'R's represent 'Richard Rincker',the manufacturer.

eyes up, Paul, old friend :tinysmile_classes_t
there is a popular error with the double R (in row or back to back) in most discussions here about manufacturer marks.
although Richard Rinker was a very busy company indeed, most early items stamped with RR were n o t made by the Rinker GmbH.

Dave's new fuze RR 189 38 is made by Gebr.Brehmer Maschinenfabrik at Leipzig-Plagwitz (.. 189 ..).

only items with RR & year, RRE etc., RR 336, lwv and (most common) dbk are true Rinker products.
every other combination of RR & two or three digits & year number is not.

for example these two S.Mi.Z.35-boxes (fuze-marks in brackets):



the left one contained Rinker-fuzes from Menden/Iserlohn (RR 1939), the right one pieces made by Hagenuk GmbH, Berlin-Tempelhof (RR 344 38).

this system of nomenclature was introduced in the mid thirties to camouflage the rearmament, as Rinker was one of few 'licensed' manufacturers.

a simple ruse, but still working until today :tinysmile_twink_t2:

 

[Grenademan2005]

I have some grenades and fuzes or boxes marked RR three digits number and year and always wanted to know what this means. My first theory is that RR had so many factories that they were numbered with the three digits number. You say that those RR were not Richard Rinker, then what they means?

 

[waffenamt]

Thank you Peter!
I consider myself now educated with that super write up
Always good to learn something new and i shall be teaching my mate at the next show on Sunday with the new info.

cheers

waff

 

[sudelmuk]

I have some grenades and fuzes or boxes marked RR three digits number and year and always wanted to know what this means. My first theory is that RR had so many factories that they were numbered with the three digits number. You say that those RR were not Richard Rinker, then what they means?

these early codes are also listed in Michael Heidlers great book Deutsche Fertigungskennzeichen bis 1945.
a very valuable and essential source for every collector of German stuff, offered by the author on SA (nickname Vorschriftensammler, I think).

this is an unpaid and honest advertisement, convinced by possessing the book myself since two years :angel:

 

[Kilroy was Here]

this system of nomenclature was introduced in the mid thirties to camouflage the rearmament, as Rinker was one of few 'licensed' manufacturers.

a simple ruse, but still working until today :tinysmile_twink_t2:

This was a very interesting post Peter. Thank you for the excellent explanation of the nomenclature system ruse, RR, Rinker etc.