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hebrew marking on german WWII fuze ?
- Thread starter Pascal
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Pascal,
The fuze you show looks like a variant of the M52 series U.S. Mortar fuze, and the anodizing finish on the fuze is more modern than the non-anodized WWII German fuzes, so I first question if your fuze is WWII German?
Yes, the markings look like Hebrew. In this day of allies and partnerships such as NATO etc., many countries use components and complete ammo from other countries, such as the UK 81mm mortar projos used by the U.S. during the first Gulf War, till they could manufacture their own copies. The U.S. currently has illuminating mortar ammo in 60mm, 81mm, and 120mm that use German mechanical time fuzes, as an example. When a country uses foreign components, they might add their own markings.
The fuze you show looks like a variant of the M52 series U.S. Mortar fuze, and the anodizing finish on the fuze is more modern than the non-anodized WWII German fuzes, so I first question if your fuze is WWII German?
Yes, the markings look like Hebrew. In this day of allies and partnerships such as NATO etc., many countries use components and complete ammo from other countries, such as the UK 81mm mortar projos used by the U.S. during the first Gulf War, till they could manufacture their own copies. The U.S. currently has illuminating mortar ammo in 60mm, 81mm, and 120mm that use German mechanical time fuzes, as an example. When a country uses foreign components, they might add their own markings.
Isn't that a DM111 series fuze? If it is... and I don't have my stuff to look at to verify .... several countries, to include Iran, have copied that fuze.
Joe
Joe
My take on the fuze isn't that the Israeli's copied it, but rather procured it from Germany. They then ink-stamped their abbreviations for the delay settings over the original markings. I would think that if they bought production rights from the Germans they would have stamped their own markings into the fuze body during manufacture. Like was mentioned before it isn't all that uncommon for a country to buy ordnance from another country. Often it is a lot cheaper than setting up their own production line and doing all that is required to design and produce the item. Especially if the demand for the item doesn't mean large quantities or long production runs.
Dm 111
Hello everybody,
yes, it is a DM111 for 60 mm mortar. We use this also in Belgium and we have the marking MV-OV to.
It is effectively possible that Isral buy this fuze in Germany and painted a marking in Hebrew for his soldiers.
Yoda
Hello everybody,
yes, it is a DM111 for 60 mm mortar. We use this also in Belgium and we have the marking MV-OV to.
It is effectively possible that Isral buy this fuze in Germany and painted a marking in Hebrew for his soldiers.
Yoda
And it goes both ways. Germany (among others) bought the M85 Bantam submunition from Israel. I'm sure there are other examples as well.
