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Large grenade and rifle grenade ID help please

No time to research right now, but 90% sure that both were NVA. The rifle grenade was made from leftover French 50mm mortars, the larger one was I believe a mine.
 
I gave it a few minutes - as a fairly decent reference, Emering's Weapons and Field Gear of the NVA and VC offers the following photos.

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I think Emering is incorrect in his identification of the rifle grenade in question. The polyvalent grenade is a much later development. The one shown is a modification of the 50mm mortar bomb, as Subs suggests, and was known at the Mle 1948 rifle grenade.

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But the connection and source I would still say is solid for Vietnam.
 
These were meant to be launched off of a M44/Type 53 bolt action. Pathet Lao used a lot of them as well as the VC. The launchers are really poorly made too.
 
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The rifle grenade is French, they originally made them out of their mortar rounds. They were "Trail Made" and produced by NVA and numerous other groups in the southeast asian region. This particular one is most likely French because of the color pattern used. Ordata mentions the NVA version of the rifle grenade. From what I've read the easiest way to tell would be in the quality of the tail fins, quality of the body casting and the paint colors.
 
Does anyone know anything about the grenade I put the square around?

Joe
 

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Looks like a French petard - an empty garage factory frag tube that was filled and primed in the field, common in WWI. Would make sense if the VC copied the design.
 
Two examples of the French 50mm Rifle Grenade (from the old Specialist Auctions website):

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