New 18Pr

[Dandebur]

Hello,
I have picked some new cases of 18Pr. I show you and I hope that will interest you.
British cases are interessant because they permit two collections: the cases and the primers. The diversity of the makers of primers N°1 is very impressive.
Case1: (pics 1&2) The case has the crimps but it is not a MkI but a MkII. VSM 1914. It is my second case of this sort. I have shown the other in a previous post.
Case 2: (pic 3) 18Pr II* for reuse during WW2 (campaign of France I think)
Case 3 (pic4) Maker REMINGTON UMC , not common, it exists also in 1915.
I continue in a second post.
Regards,
Dandebur.

 

[Dandebur]

I continue.
Case 4: (pics 5&6) Maker EWBC but what interest me is the maker of the primer ENOTS in an oval.
Case5: (pics 7&8) Maker CC&F, not common, lot 14 M?. I had before only cases of 1916 and 1917.What is interesting, to my mind, is the letters JC. I think they are the initials of the inspector. He was before in the factory MAC where he was replaced by the letters BA or B only. In the factory CC&F in 1916 letters are HH and latter in 1917 replaced by HP. I had also never seen before this maker of the primer SP&FCo.
Hope that will interest.
Regards,
Dandebur.

 

[TimG]

Dandebur,

Interesting cases, thanks for posting them.

Case 3 - This Remington case has a British primer made by EMB - Electro Mechanical Brake Co, Moor Street, West Bromwich.
Case 4 - EWBC - E.W. Bliss & Co, USA. ENOTS is Stone backwards, I have a vague recollection on this company. I'll do some research tomorrow.
Case 5 - CC & F - Canadian Car & Foundry Co., Canada. The primer is Canadian, I don't know the maker. I'll do some research tomorrow.

TimG

Update
ENOTS - trademark of Benton & Stone Ltd, Bracebridge Street, Birmingham.

 

[hangarman]

Hello,
I have picked some new cases of 18Pr. I show you and I hope that will interest you.
British cases are interessant because they permit two collections: the cases and the primers. The diversity of the makers of primers N°1 is very impressive.

Case 2: (pic 3) 18Pr II* for reuse during WW2 (campaign of France I think)

Regards,
Dandebur.

When did 18pr cartridge production begin again after 1918?. There were so many live rounds and spent cases left after the great war I don't suppose they carried on producing cartridges until a lot later, I'm guessing the mid to late 30's. Does anyone know which year exactly?
Cheers
Gary

 

[Dandebur]

Hello,
Thank you for your replies, especialy for the identifications of the makers. Satisfied that has some interest.
I will show another primers.
Regards.
Dandebur.

 

[Hoeksel]

After 1918 I have only seen several 1939 dated cases. I would love to see examples between 1918 and 1939!

 

[hangarman]

I have a 37 dated example with a 38 dated primer. Stamped 18pr Mk IV ICI (Imperial Chemical Industries) A in a Diamond LOT 9.7 S in a Diamond CF (Cordite Full charge) DW under a broad arrow. Will try and take a picture tomorrow....
Cheers
Gary

 

[Dandebur]

Hello,
Hoeksel, I have shown an example of 18Pr dated 1931 in a previous post. It is a Mk III. I think the maker MSF is Indian.
http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/87878-Inter-War-18pdr/page2
Regards,
Dandebur.