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NGO-74 info please
- Thread starter Darrol
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Tony Williams
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NGO would be an HE round, I think. Smoke would be NGD.
I have a small sectioned illustration of the NGD-N smoke round, which has holes around it as you describe. Send me your email address and I'll send it to you.
The NGD-N is for standard 40x46 LV grenade launchers, whereas the -74 series were not NATO qualified and were only for use in the Polish Model 74 PALLAD UGLs for fitting to the AK-74 (they are usually designated 40x47 to distinguish them). However, the projectiles were often the same as the 40x46 series.
I have a small sectioned illustration of the NGD-N smoke round, which has holes around it as you describe. Send me your email address and I'll send it to you.
The NGD-N is for standard 40x46 LV grenade launchers, whereas the -74 series were not NATO qualified and were only for use in the Polish Model 74 PALLAD UGLs for fitting to the AK-74 (they are usually designated 40x47 to distinguish them). However, the projectiles were often the same as the 40x46 series.
There are all types of ammunition being used with grenade launcher Mod 74 (Mod 83): NGO-74 (fragmentation), grenade for NGC-74 (practice) and grenade for NGB-74 (ballistic, usually used for practice purposes). So, if the grenade has 6 holes - it must be NGC. NGD-N grenade has of course similar body as NGC, but there are a lot of other diferencies. Please note, that NG...-N family (N for NATO) is used with the newest grenade launcher SBAO-40 and is not interchangable with the older NG...-74.
Tony Williams
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That's true Przemo, but there used to be a wider range of ammunition in the -74 series, including the NGD-74 smoke round.
Hi Tony, trust me - there are only mentioned three types of 40x47 mm rounds in use in Polish Army. As I know, no more types were manufactured. Regarding 40x46 mm - it is pretty huge family (I was involved in development some of them) including two smoke grenades, but there is no "74" number in designation.
Darrol - the red band is made of plastic and plays dual role: marking (in former Polish regulations red bands characterized practice ammunition) and closing the flash holes (it is destoyed while hitting ground)
Darrol - the red band is made of plastic and plays dual role: marking (in former Polish regulations red bands characterized practice ammunition) and closing the flash holes (it is destoyed while hitting ground)
Tony Williams
Well-Known Member
Hi Przemo,
My information comes from a Dezamet brochure. I have the pages in front of me now (I can scan them and send them to you if you like). It describes and illustrates the following rounds for the Pallad launcher:
NGO-74 (HE)
NGB-74 ("ballistic cartridge")
NGC-74 (Practice)
NGD-74 (Smoke)
NGG-74 (Tear gas)
NGZ-74 (Incendiary).
Of course, it is possible that Dezamet developed the extra rounds but no-one bought them.
My information comes from a Dezamet brochure. I have the pages in front of me now (I can scan them and send them to you if you like). It describes and illustrates the following rounds for the Pallad launcher:
NGO-74 (HE)
NGB-74 ("ballistic cartridge")
NGC-74 (Practice)
NGD-74 (Smoke)
NGG-74 (Tear gas)
NGZ-74 (Incendiary).
Of course, it is possible that Dezamet developed the extra rounds but no-one bought them.
OK,
I've found the same brochure. It looks, Dezamet adopted some grenades from SBAO project to 40x47 mm round, just a trade offer. No one use them in the armed forces, what's more they probably don't exist (apart from model) - I will confirm this info (I should visit DEZAMET this month).
I've found the same brochure. It looks, Dezamet adopted some grenades from SBAO project to 40x47 mm round, just a trade offer. No one use them in the armed forces, what's more they probably don't exist (apart from model) - I will confirm this info (I should visit DEZAMET this month).
