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Sounds like we've lost a fellow collector

This paragraph was in the article. At least it sounds like they intend to pass the collection onto his family.

There are some very valuable items in the house. We are now working with the family because they are keen to get some of the items back to them. But we can obviously only do that when we know they are safe for definite.
 
This one leapt out at me, is he talking about the weapons or the ordnance. If he means the weapons, no they don't they need either a valid firearms certificate or to be deactivated.

Discussing the legality of owning such items, Mr Hodgkinson said: It is legal to keep such items but they have to be certified as safe. Unless the weapons are certified then they are classed as prohibited weapons.
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Requiescat in Pace, unknown collector.

A bereavement followed by postmortem governmental robbery!
"estate sale or auction" .... your'e a dreamer Tietrack :tinysmile_twink_t2: ... the best pieces will seep away in various collections on interested parties. :tinysmile_angry2_t:
 
RIP. I wonder if it is a collector we know from the BOCN or Wk2ammo forum....

One part of the text in the paper stands out:

"He urged other collectors of military memorabilia to contact South Yorkshire Police if there are any concerns about the safety of any items.
“If people who have collections of Second World War and First World War weapons and have concerns about safety of their collections, we have specialist firearm officers who would be happy to look at them and give people advice,” he said."

So, if I understand it correct, if you have any concerns, you have a firearms expert checking your stuff. And if anything appears/seems/occurs to be wrong there will be no panic, evacuation, confiscation and prosecution; just advice and help.
Wow, you Brittish are damn Lucky.

Another thing that ocurs to me; when you read the link to the paper, the posting is placed under the crime section. As far as we know by now, the man was no criminal, or commited a crime; he was a collector. A bit annoying to see how a paper acts as a prosecutor, judge and jury on forehand.

Regards, DJH
 
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pzgr40 said:
RIP. I wonder if it is a collector we know from the BOCN or Wk2ammo forum....

One part of the text in the paper stands out:

"He urged other collectors of military memorabilia to contact South Yorkshire Police if there are any concerns about the safety of any items.
If people who have collections of Second World War and First World War weapons and have concerns about safety of their collections, we have specialist firearm officers who would be happy to look at them and give people advice, he said."

So, if I understand it correct, if you have any concerns, you have a firearms expert checking your stuff. And if anything appears/seems/occurs to be wrong there will be no panic, evacuation, confiscation and prosecution; just advice and help.
Wow, you Brittish are damn Lucky.

Another thing that ocurs to me; when you read the link to the paper, the posting is placed under the crime section. As far as we know by now, the man was no criminal, or commited a crime; he was a collector. A bit annoying to see how a paper acts as a prosecutor, judge and jury on forehand.

Regards, DJH
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Yep, the media are keen to put over their view as if it's fact. Say or do something that doesn't conform to their view and you set yourself up as a target, or are ignored if the issue isn't contentious enough. Sad about the collector chap, if he was an old (WW2 era) fella, I bet he would have had some stories to tell.
 
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The family could apply for a disposal certificate and dispose of the firearms any way they legally want. Anything else is theirs unless proven to contain explosives or be stolen. An inspection for the de act proof house marks, usually clearly visible would determine what was a firearm and what was not. Wonder if they know that or will be told.
 
Good grief! Those German bayonets being removed by a police officer in the last picture look awefully dangerous too.

T.

2pounder said:
The family could apply for a disposal certificate and dispose of the firearms any way they legally want. Anything else is theirs unless proven to contain explosives or be stolen. An inspection for the de act proof house marks, usually clearly visible would determine what was a firearm and what was not. Wonder if they know that or will be told.
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LCplCombat said:
This one leapt out at me, is he talking about the weapons or the ordnance. If he means the weapons, no they don't they need either a valid firearms certificate or to be deactivated.
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Discussing the legality of owning such items, Mr Hodgkinson said: It is legal to keep such items but they have to be certified as safe. Unless the weapons are certified then they are classed as prohibited weapons.
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I don't follow your reasoning?
If by weapons, they mean the guns, then I thought they DID have to be deactivated or have a firearms license?
As for ordnance I take it there is still no requirement for anything - other than common sense?!
 
Total load of bolloxs & impossible to put together the true picture for several reasons:
Over statement/elaboriton & sensationalism by the press.
Ambiguos statements or mis-quotes from the police.
The press are implying the guy had`arsenal` of weapons & munitions - so what if legal & safe to own? The guy could have had FAC with 5 & everything else fully inert/safe?
The police are not clearly putting the publics mind at rest as to the true condition/legality of the `collection`.
As to `certificates`. For what? Owning firearms or `scrap metal` of interest to a few?
The police love this situation as they can play the `nasty guns` & related stuff tune that puts Joe public on edge - thereby reporting the sale of fired .22 blanks at a car boot as percieved acts of borderline anarchy! The owneship of a firearm in any shape or form as an illlegal call to arms.
The press have no understanding of such so just go with flow & try to sell more papers.
All this not helped by the totally uncontrolled & undefined legislation relating to such collectibles - although one can argue that if it does not fall within the confines of the Firearms Acts of `68 & `97 & Licensing Law of 2013 then it must be legal?
It seems that possesion of such items is a case of guilty until proven otherwise (note lack of word innocent)?
I am sorry for this familys loss but saddened by the fact that his collection was deemed more newsworthy than his passing.
As to the use of the MOD EOD bods - naturally a logical move but also seems the police have passed the buck in the way this is reported?
As to ownership/value/legality of items removed - bet items not catalogued & `destroyed` before NOK can sort out - but honestly if your nearest & dearest passed would that be top of `to do list`? Convnient that eh?
 
Any item, legal or illegal is still your property unless it falls under the proceeds of crime or is a danger to the public (unstable Live ordnance) in the UK, if the EOD destroy any of your items you must get a certificate of destruction from them if your permission is not asked, thy are liable if not, it costs money to go that route but it does work and really annoys them,,,,,,, Dave
 
ajf.350d said:
I don't follow your reasoning?
If by weapons, they mean the guns, then I thought they DID have to be deactivated or have a firearms license?
As for ordnance I take it there is still no requirement for anything - other than common sense?!
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That's what I said
 
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