Inert Ordnance Collectors - Projectiles http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/ Discussion and identification of all sized projectiles en Sun, 19 May 2013 19:12:38 GMT vBulletin 60 http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/images/styles/UndergroundStyle/misc/rss.png Inert Ordnance Collectors - Projectiles http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/ Cone bore query http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86734-Cone-bore-query?goto=newpost Sun, 19 May 2013 09:43:51 GMT Attached are 3 photographs of a large cone bore projectile that has been fired. My query is, keeping in mind this have clearly been fired and the... Attached are 3 photographs of a large cone bore projectile that has been fired.
My query is, keeping in mind this have clearly been fired and the rear flange is squeezed in, how is it that the front flange isn't.
Its not been messed with, there is no indication that anyone has tried to pull out the front flange.
The only explanation I can think of is that after exiting the barrel the centrifugal force was so great the front flange did not retain its squeezed shape and partly reverted to the original shape. Clearly a failed experiment as the projectile would then not be as aerodynamic.
Front flange diameter is between 67 and 69mmm
Rear flange diameter is roughly 58mm
Narrowest point of projectile (the part the front flange would squeeze into) is 40mm
All solid and INERT
Thoughts anyone?
Dave.

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]]> Projectiles SG500 http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86734-Cone-bore-query Panzerbüchse PzB 39 7.92 x 94 Patronen http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86722-Panzerbüchse-PzB-39-7-92-x-94-Patronen?goto=newpost Thu, 16 May 2013 20:07:09 GMT Have heard about it but today i got one... i was amazed from the fact that a small size like this was used and an AT ammunition... i am really... Have heard about it but today i got one... i was amazed from the fact that a small size like this was used and an AT ammunition...

i am really curious of what damage this could actually do.. any info around ??

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]]> Projectiles Rafail http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86722-Panzerbüchse-PzB-39-7-92-x-94-Patronen Belgian HEAT-T NR 478A2 90 mm Canon http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86718-Belgian-HEAT-T-NR-478A2-90-mm-Canon?goto=newpost Thu, 16 May 2013 10:35:24 GMT HI, has anyone have some pictures of the Belgian HEAT-T NR 478A2 for 90 mm Canon? Thanks. HI, has anyone have some pictures of the Belgian HEAT-T NR 478A2 for 90 mm Canon?


Thanks. ]]> Projectiles rmpnunes http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86718-Belgian-HEAT-T-NR-478A2-90-mm-Canon 20x110 Hispano help http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86712-20x110-Hispano-help?goto=newpost Wed, 15 May 2013 13:20:40 GMT Hello Anyone know the model of this cartridge 20x110 Hispano? The fuse is steel, no mechanism Marking on the tip body: BRDT-11-46 thanks... Hello
Anyone know the model of this cartridge 20x110 Hispano?
The fuse is steel, no mechanism
Marking on the tip body: BRDT-11-46
thanks
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]]> Projectiles hasag http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86712-20x110-Hispano-help Tell me about my 2 PDR please! http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86711-Tell-me-about-my-2-PDR-please!?goto=newpost Wed, 15 May 2013 12:50:55 GMT Good day all! I bought this about 25+ years ago in a shop in Hastings or St. Leonards and brought it back to the States with me. I did a bit of... Good day all!
I bought this about 25+ years ago in a shop in Hastings or St. Leonards and brought it back to the States with me. I did a bit of research at that time, but that was pre-Internet and resources were not easily found. So it has been sitting on a shelf in my family room until recently. Any information is appreciated. I'm fairly certain it's a 40mm, 2 pounder, but beyound that I am pretty much in the dark.

Thanks in advance for your comments,

Jeff
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]]> Projectiles exiowans http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86711-Tell-me-about-my-2-PDR-please! Help 20mm http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86663-Help-20mm?goto=newpost Thu, 09 May 2013 19:21:18 GMT good evening to all of you could help me to date these two 20 mm projectiles (dark green) , and to understand the nationality? Attachment 77826... good evening to all of you could help me to date these two 20 mm projectiles (dark green) , and to understand the nationality?
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sorry for the crappy photo:nerd:
regards Nicola
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]]> Projectiles frasche http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86663-Help-20mm French 220mm Projectile http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86658-French-220mm-Projectile?goto=newpost Thu, 09 May 2013 13:43:24 GMT Here's a nice example of a French 220mm projectile model 1909, next to a 7.6cm Minenwerfer for scale.

Pete

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]]> Projectiles peteblight http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86658-French-220mm-Projectile Tidy British 18pdr http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86657-Tidy-British-18pdr?goto=newpost Wed, 08 May 2013 20:36:29 GMT Attachment 77783 (http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77783)Attachment 77784... DSCF6258.jpgDSCF6259.jpgDSCF6260.jpgDSCF6261.jpgDSCF6262.jpg
Picked up this little beauty the other day. This has to be the cleanest 18pdr I have seen in a long while. Not like the usual rusty ground dug ones doing the rounds.
I would think this was picked up soon after firing judging by the condition and lack of corrosion.
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]]> Projectiles merlin_industries http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86657-Tidy-British-18pdr 20x110 HS 404 http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86655-20x110-HS-404?goto=newpost Wed, 08 May 2013 20:22:23 GMT Anyone know please tell me who is responsible for this marking on a 20x110 HS404 KE 5430 ? thanks Anyone know please tell me who is responsible for this marking on a 20x110 HS404
KE 5430 ?
thanks ]]> Projectiles hasag http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86655-20x110-HS-404 Unknow Shell http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86642-Unknow-Shell?goto=newpost Mon, 06 May 2013 21:14:13 GMT Hello, recently i got this shell,what kind of round is this? Attachment 77750 (http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/attachment.php?attachmentid=77750) Hello, recently i got this shell,what kind of round is this?
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]]> Projectiles Jose__ http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86642-Unknow-Shell WW2 German 8 cm shell experimental ? http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86635-WW2-German-8-cm-shell-experimental?goto=newpost Sun, 05 May 2013 18:00:22 GMT Hello here are few ww2 german 8 cm mortar shells. THEY ARE ALL INERT. They have been found few tears ago in Germany in an ammunition experimental... Hello

here are few ww2 german 8 cm mortar shells. THEY ARE ALL INERT.
They have been found few tears ago in Germany in an ammunition experimental factory.
All contain a kind of tar and have markings telling inert (Bl = Blindgeladene = inert) on fuzes or bodies; OK for that.
But, why these shells have not a charges tail? They are shortest than original ones.
I am still looking for what it was supposed to be.
Regards
J-Mi





]]> Projectiles ruweisat http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86635-WW2-German-8-cm-shell-experimental Clay Projectile, I.D. of http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86634-Clay-Projectile-I-D-of?goto=newpost Sun, 05 May 2013 17:34:41 GMT Can someone provide me with a photo, drawing or patent copy of Col. Clay's RBL lead coated shell said to be copied from Wm. Armstrong's lead coated RBL shell?
I would prefer a British reference. The ones in the U.S. have been mis-identified as Armstrong shells.
Best Regards,
John ]]> Projectiles John D. Bartleson Jr. http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86634-Clay-Projectile-I-D-of The Woolwich System of Projectile Rotation, British Version; http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86622-The-Woolwich-System-of-Projectile-Rotation-British-Version?goto=newpost Fri, 03 May 2013 19:23:22 GMT To All Interested, For years collectors and authors have referred to the British copper studded projectile as an Armstrong invention. ... To All Interested,
For years collectors and authors have referred to the British copper studded projectile as an Armstrong invention. However, the copper studded shell was copied from the French by the Woolwich Arsenal and Laboratory and termed the 'Woolwich System'. Early models were fitted with zinc/lead studs for use in bronze rifles. Later the Royal Laboratory chnged to copper studs.
The system was made for rifle cannon made by the Arsenal and also contracts let out to The Elswick Ordnance Company (EOC).
Those made by the Royal Laboratory will have the R L stamp on its base and those made by Armstrong's EOC will have 'EOC' cast or stamped into the shell's ogive.
Below are two fuzing systems used in the 9 pdr.
Best Regareds,
John


]]> Projectiles John D. Bartleson Jr. http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86622-The-Woolwich-System-of-Projectile-Rotation-British-Version 12 Pounder Star shell??? http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86618-12-Pounder-Star-shell?goto=newpost Fri, 03 May 2013 12:40:39 GMT Bought this off SA recently,when it arrived i though someone had butchered the bottom so though id bought a pup! Had another look yesterday and... Bought this off SA recently,when it arrived i though someone had butchered the bottom so though id bought a pup! Had another look yesterday and popped out the base,seems its original and is obviously base eject.The shear pins seemed to be fitted randomly,but i have been informed this is common on early shells like this. So is it star,smoke or what? Any info appreciated,cheers12 pdr 001.jpg12 pdr 003.jpg Tony.
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]]> Projectiles tigbrand http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86618-12-Pounder-Star-shell <![CDATA[OTO Melara "Vulcano"]]> http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/86602-OTO-Melara-quot-Vulcano-quot?goto=newpost Wed, 01 May 2013 12:44:13 GMT Just stumbled across these, thought you like to see them (ignore the languages): http://bmpd.livejournal.com/327066.html ... Just stumbled across these, thought you like to see them (ignore the languages):

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