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Huge flame thrower

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/new...or-weapon-of-the-Somme-battle-discovered.html

Secret terror weapon of the Somme battle 'discovered'

Unleashed at the start of the Battle of the Somme, it produced a terrifying effect
the like of which had never before been seen on a battlefield.

By Jasper Copping / Published: 8:30AM BST 09 May 2010

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The devastatingly effective flame-thowers were credited with helping the British capture the German trenches
with comparatively few losses. Here is one being tested.
The 'weapon of terror' spewed flames over a range of 300 feet
From a small, concealed nozzle on the surface, the "weapon of terror" spewed flames over a range of 300 feet.
As the nozzle pivoted, the jet raked along the German front line, pouring blazing oil onto the enemy position.

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Four of these vast, top secret weapons were assembled in shallow tunnels beneath the mud of no-man's-land
to be deployed on the first day of the Somme battle, on July 1 1916.
Two were destroyed by German shells in the build-up to the attack and could not be operated.
Two others were deployed on the morning of the assault and were credited with helping the British in those areas to capture
the German trenches with comparatively few losses.
But despite their success, their contribution to the ill-fated offensive has been largely forgotten.
Now, however, a team of historians and archaeologists believe they have found the last remaining machine, still buried beneath the mud of northern France.
This week they are to start digging for the device with the hope of removing and preserving it.
Peter Barton, a historian and author involved in the project, said: "The idea was to fill the enemy with terror. It was a weapon, not of mass destruction,
but of mass terror, pure and simple.
The idea was to force the Germans to keep their heads down long enough for your infantry to cross no-man's-land.
"They were meant to scare the Germans. It didn't kill that many people. The idea was just to make them so frightened of this horrific thing.
The effect of the flame was utterly stupendous.
Where they were used, the British captured the German lines with very little loss at all."
Built at a factory in Lincoln, the devices were called Livens Large Gallery Flame Projectors, after their inventor, William Howard Livens, an officer in the Royal Engineers.
To the men who operated them, the 56ft long, 2.5 tonne machines were called "Squirts", and "Judgements", by more senior officers.
Of all the experimental weapons deployed in the First World War, including tanks, gas shells and aircraft, few had greater impact on their first use,
and yet none have remained so little known or as secret.
They were operated by a crew of eight men from the Royal Engines Special Brigade "Z" company but took 300 men to assemble them underground,
each component part being taken into the shallow tunnels, known as "Russian Saps", in sequence. The devices then had to be filled with oil,
taken underground in hundreds of cans.
The strange-looking, tubular weapons were only 14 inches wide and worked like a large syringe. A piston was pushed by compressed gas into
a long chamber containing the fuel. This was then forced out through the nozzle on the surface, from where the jet of flame was projected.
For all the hours they took to assemble, the devices could only be fired three times, with each blast lasting only ten seconds.
The team involved in the recovery operation, which includes members of Glasgow University's Archaeological Research Division (GUARD),
is confident it has located one of the four, at Montagne de Cappy, just south of Mametz, by studying private diaries, trench maps, mine plans,
aerial photographs and official accounts of the battle.
They have also conducted geophysical studies of the site, using ground penetrating radar, which have indicated the presence of metallic objects,
thought to be the remains of the weapon.
They are to start digging next week and expect the project to last three weeks. While excavating the sap, the team also have to scan
for possible unexploded ordnance in the area, and are also mindful of the possibility of finding human remains.
The buried Livens projector is thought to be the only remaining machine left in existence.
According to a war diary entry, it was "lost beyond recall" on June 28 two days before the battle commenced
when a German shell collapsed the sap onto in.
Another one damaged in shelling was stripped of salvageable parts for spares. The other two, which fired successfully,
were later removed.
Although some were provided to the Russians, after the Somme, the weapon was only deployed once more by the British,
in 1917 during an offence near Diksmuide, in Belgium.
As part of a television programme, for Channel Four's Time Team and the History Channel, the team are
also planning to construct a new Livens Large Gallery Flame Projector, to test the technology and recreate
its terrifying impact.

MAP of the trenches :
http://lt1.mcmaster.ca/ww1/wrz4mp.php?grid=62d&map_id=32&view


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I'll look out for the TV programme - this weapon is one I'd never heard of before.
 
I've heard of 'Livens projectors' before but I'm sure it was in a book to do with the second world war? Maybe I'm wrong
 
Wow

Totally interesting article. The things used in First World War just blow me away. Another bookmark space taken!! Keep 'em coming....Dano
 
Some informations :

The English soldiers prepared their assault on July 1st 1916 in the Somme. Several months earlier, near Carnoy and Mametz they have secretly, digged three long tunnels for the three high power and long range flamethrowers .

Each flamethrowers , 18 feet long, weighed 15 tons.
They were transported by men : 300 men were needed to send it to the bottom of the tunnel.

These machines were able to throw flames at a distance of 80-90 meters, with a high pressure system injecting liquids into a periscope just emerging from the ground.

These devices were not intended to kill Germans, but to force them to hide down into their bunkers, to protect themselves from the 30 seconds of hell that covered everything.

This left a little respite to the English soldiers to leave their shelters without being shot.

But, June 28, 1916, the flamethrower of Mametz is destroyed by shelling.

They have worked in Carnoy 1 July but they were completely dismantled a few days later.

Only one Mametz, crushed by bombardment, has since been buried under tons of earth.

All these elements have been discovered by Peter Barton, British historian specializing in World War.

In 2005, he accidentally discovers the existence of this machine.
He decided to begin a search and, for during months, plunges into tons of archives .

A daunting task because the machine kept secret until its use, not listed in any register of war. The quest has determined with certainty that the tunnel entrance is located between the trenches 71 and 72, south of Mametz.

Apparently, the entrance of the tunnel has been discovered.


Google Picture of the place:

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Video of Mametz today:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGyAueDcupM&feature=PlayList&p=EBFB7D2A9CDBB79A&playnext_from=PL&playnext=1&index=11"]YouTube- Welsh Memorial, Mametz Wood, The Somme, France[/ame]

WW1 Video of Mametz trenches:
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V04mludUtI8"]YouTube- War As It Really Is - Reel 6[/ame]
 
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Canadian TV and the B.B.C are there !
http://www.courrier-picard.fr/courr...die/A-la-recherche-d-une-arme-unique-au-monde



MAMETZ la recherche d'une arme unique au monde
Photos :
Jonathan Dueck, cameraman, prsente le dessin du lance-flammes que recherchent les 25 archologues anglais.

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Depuis une semaine, des archologues anglais sont la recherche du dernier lance-flammes anglais
de la Premire Guerre mondiale, sous les objectifs des camras d'une tl canadienne.
Il y a une semaine, c'tait encore un champ dans lequel naissait du bl.
Aujourd'hui, c'est un immense site de fouilles.
Au sud du village, l'abri des regards indiscrets, vingt-cinq archologues et gomtres anglais s'activent
sous les camras d'une tlvision canadienne, dirige par Jonathan Dueck.
Nous sommes venus raliser un long documentaire de 88 minutes sur ce qui se passe ici.
Il est dj vendu chez nous, mais aussi en Angleterre. Il sera diffus sur la BBC.
Nous sommes aussi en contacts avec France Tlvisions, qui se montre intress.
Demain, la BBC viendra mme faire un reportage sur les coulisses du tournage ! C'est dire si les fouilles entreprises sur l'ancienne ligne de front de 1916 sont importantes. Elles vont permettre de mettre jour une pice unique au monde : le seul lance-flammes de longue porte de la Premire guerre mondiale existant encore sur la plante.
Les restes et une rplique seront offerts la rgion
Dans un premier temps, les gomtres, aids par des plans militaires d'poque, se sont mis matrialiser les anciennes tranches , poursuit Jonathan Dueck. Lignes de front allemande et anglaise, lignes de communications, tout a t balis avec de petits drapeaux de couleurs, distants d'un mtre chacun. Les archologues se sont alors mis creuser et ils ont effectivement trouv ce qu'on attendait : les vestiges des tranches. Des traces mais aussi de nombreux kilos de ferrailles, vestiges, des fusils. Mais aussi une gourde franaise dans un extraordinaire tat de conservation : elle est encore recouverte de sa peinture bleue. C'est une pice exceptionnelle !
Pour le moment, les recherches se droulent parfaitement. Les historiens et archologues de l'Universit de Glasgow savent que le lance-flammes est au bout d'un tunnel (remblay par les bombardements) dont l'entre se situe sur la ligne de front, entre les lignes de liaison 71 et 72.
La route 71 a t identifie samedi, la 72 devrait l'tre aujourd'hui ou demain. Restera alors trouver les traces de l'entre du tunnel. qui n'est pas mentionn sur les cartes.
Ds qu'il sera localis, on n'aura plus qu' le suivre en creusant, on ne sait pas quelle profondeur, jusqu'au moment o nous dcouvrirons le lance-flammes. Nos fouilles seront termines le 28 mai.
Des fouilles dont bnficieront les Franais puisque tout ce qui sera trouv restera ici .
Les restes du lance-flammes devraient tre offerts l'Historial de Pronne, qui a aid les historiens
dans leurs recherches.
Et en fonction de ce que nous trouverons, une copie de l'appareil sera construite cet t.
Elle sera elle aussi offerte la rgion , termine Jonathan Dueck, persuad que la dcouverte
qui se profile sera tout simplement historique .
VINCENT FOUQUET
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A part of the huge flamethrower :

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The work has stopped (need money to continue).
The tunnel +holes ares filled again , till the next year perhaps.
A quantity of pieces of the machine are still deep in the trenches.

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Fascinating story. Looking forward to additional information on the subject. Many thanks for sharing.

Regards, Jan
 
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