Hello,
First off, I'm not sure if this is the right sub forum for this, as I've not posted a lot on here. My back story is, I'm a Technical Forum Moderator for War Thunder, a historically based Military vehicle sim game. As such, I do a lot of research on AFV's, and ammunition terminal ballistics. Some times, with the more modern stuff, we have to depend on estimates. Such as using Lanz Odermatt to calculate apfsds penetration. And, I've seen on here that at least a few people have extensive collections.
What I'm looking for, is information on APFSDS Projectiles. Mostly the dimensions and weight/mass, of the projectiles without the sabot. And if possible on certain projectiles, the dimensions of the penetration rods without the ballistic cap and tail fins.
Specific projectiles that I would like to find information on I'll list below. I can also understand if some are unwilling to or unable to share such information publicly, I'm open to PM's. If at all possible, pictures of the measurements would be great.
UK 120mm L23A1:
Diameter of the rod
Length of the rod without tail fins
Mass of the projectile itself
UK 120mm L26 Charm1
Diameter of the rod
Length of the rod without tail fins
Mass of the projectile itself
US/German 152mm XM578E1
Diameter of the projectile
length of the projectile
Mass of the projectile itself
If possible, Dimensions of the Tungsten alloy core that is inside the projectile
US M774, I have some info on this, just want to confirm it's correct
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the Rod without fins/ballistic cap
Length and diameter of the Frustum/Tip section
Mass of the projectile itself
US M833
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the Rod without fins/ballistic cap
Mass of the projectile itself
US M829
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the rod without fins/ballistic cap
Mass of the projectile itself
US M829A1, Likelihood of seeing this is close to none
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the rod without fins/ballistic cap
Mass of the projectile itself
US M829A2, same as M829A1 I'm guessing on finding the info
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the rod without fins/ballistic cap
Mass of the projectile itself
German DM23
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the Rod without fins/ballistic cap
Mass of the projectile
Would also be nice to know if this has a frustum or flat tip
German DM33
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the Rod without fins/ballistic cap
Mass of the projectile
German DM53
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the Rod without fins/ballistic cap
Mass of the projectile
USSR 3BM29
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the Rod without fins/cap
if at all possible length and diameter of the core
Mass of the projectile
USSR 3BM32 "Vant"
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the rod without fins/cap
Mass of the projectile
USSR 3BM42 "Mango"
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the Rod without fins/cap
Length and diameter of the alloy core
Mass of the projectile
USSR 3BM46 "Svinets"
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the Rod without fins/cap
Mass of the Projectile
USSR 3BM42M
Diameter of the Rod
Length of Rod without fins/cap
Mass of the projectile.
Like I said above, I understand the likelihood of finding all this info is probably pretty slim in most cases. But it's worth a shot. For anyone who's willing to assist me in this little project of mine, you'd have my utmost gratitude.
First off, I'm not sure if this is the right sub forum for this, as I've not posted a lot on here. My back story is, I'm a Technical Forum Moderator for War Thunder, a historically based Military vehicle sim game. As such, I do a lot of research on AFV's, and ammunition terminal ballistics. Some times, with the more modern stuff, we have to depend on estimates. Such as using Lanz Odermatt to calculate apfsds penetration. And, I've seen on here that at least a few people have extensive collections.
What I'm looking for, is information on APFSDS Projectiles. Mostly the dimensions and weight/mass, of the projectiles without the sabot. And if possible on certain projectiles, the dimensions of the penetration rods without the ballistic cap and tail fins.
Specific projectiles that I would like to find information on I'll list below. I can also understand if some are unwilling to or unable to share such information publicly, I'm open to PM's. If at all possible, pictures of the measurements would be great.
UK 120mm L23A1:
Diameter of the rod
Length of the rod without tail fins
Mass of the projectile itself
UK 120mm L26 Charm1
Diameter of the rod
Length of the rod without tail fins
Mass of the projectile itself
US/German 152mm XM578E1
Diameter of the projectile
length of the projectile
Mass of the projectile itself
If possible, Dimensions of the Tungsten alloy core that is inside the projectile
US M774, I have some info on this, just want to confirm it's correct
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the Rod without fins/ballistic cap
Length and diameter of the Frustum/Tip section
Mass of the projectile itself
US M833
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the Rod without fins/ballistic cap
Mass of the projectile itself
US M829
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the rod without fins/ballistic cap
Mass of the projectile itself
US M829A1, Likelihood of seeing this is close to none
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the rod without fins/ballistic cap
Mass of the projectile itself
US M829A2, same as M829A1 I'm guessing on finding the info
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the rod without fins/ballistic cap
Mass of the projectile itself
German DM23
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the Rod without fins/ballistic cap
Mass of the projectile
Would also be nice to know if this has a frustum or flat tip
German DM33
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the Rod without fins/ballistic cap
Mass of the projectile
German DM53
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the Rod without fins/ballistic cap
Mass of the projectile
USSR 3BM29
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the Rod without fins/cap
if at all possible length and diameter of the core
Mass of the projectile
USSR 3BM32 "Vant"
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the rod without fins/cap
Mass of the projectile
USSR 3BM42 "Mango"
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the Rod without fins/cap
Length and diameter of the alloy core
Mass of the projectile
USSR 3BM46 "Svinets"
Diameter of the Rod
Length of the Rod without fins/cap
Mass of the Projectile
USSR 3BM42M
Diameter of the Rod
Length of Rod without fins/cap
Mass of the projectile.
Like I said above, I understand the likelihood of finding all this info is probably pretty slim in most cases. But it's worth a shot. For anyone who's willing to assist me in this little project of mine, you'd have my utmost gratitude.
