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    35mm APFSDS-T ROUND - New Acquired, Requesting Any Info

    Thrilled to have just added this stunning, 35mm APFSDS-T, inert, round to my large bore DS collection. I have never seen a 35mm APFSDS-T round that incorporates a wasp waisted sabot assembly. My copy of, "Jane's Ammunition," does not list any information on this specimen. It was filled with rice and small shot pellets and the projectile is factory crimped to the case. When I removed the primer (difficult) and all the filling, I could see the fin assembly intact. Guessing this may have been an experimental or Trade Show specimen? If anyone has any info, I'd be super grateful. I am thinking of sectioning it.

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    very nice!! :-)

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    This is a pic of the Rheinmetall APFSDS-T PMD343, from their official handout.

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    Thanks so much for the awesome reference photo, Tony! Thats a beauty. My guess is that the one I just added is most likely experimental? Not sure who made it, but it has hand engraved ( # and A, B, C, D) on the inside of the wind scoop on each sabot petal. I usually see this on experimentals. I always thought that these engraving were to help with recovery and future study after being range fired?

    Now I gotta find a, Rheinmetall example LOL

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    Tony,

    Question, Do all APFSDS-T cannon rounds incorporate a plastic withheld over the protruding sub-projectile dart, like the Rheinmetall example you shared? The one I recently added does not have that part and I was wondering if it was missing or if some of these smaller APFSDS rounds do not have this feature? None of the larger tank fired APFSDS specimens that I have or have seen in, JANE'S incorporate this type of windscreen.

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    The ones loaded automaticaly do have a way to lead the round into the chamber.
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    any live or recovered ordnance shown in my posts was dealt with by trained EOD personnel

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    That is very nice! I have the 35mm APDS round, but would have bought the APDSFS round in a heartbeat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apfsds View Post
    Do all APFSDS-T cannon rounds incorporate a plastic withheld over the protruding sub-projectile dart, like the Rheinmetall example you shared?
    All of the auto cannon APFSDS ones in my collection have a plastic nose cap, but my collection is not comprehensive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apfsds View Post
    Tony,

    Question, Do all APFSDS-T cannon rounds incorporate a plastic withheld over the protruding sub-projectile dart, like the Rheinmetall example you shared? .

    Jason
    Jason I've got a load of variations without caps that never would have had caps, that said many are expt. 25mm, Colt 26mm, a couple of American 30mm one with ceramic petals, numerous 35,40,45mm, 40mm CTA, 45mm CTA, 50mm supershot to name a few.
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    I suspect that many APFSDS would first have been made without nose caps, because the key issue to get right was the sabot design and its separation from the flight projectile, work done in manually-loaded test barrels. The nose cap was a relatively simple addition, there to smooth the feeding of the round into the chamber in a high-rate-of-fire gun. So a lot of experimental rounds would never have got as far as being fitted with nose caps.

    Dave, I don't think Cased Telescoped rounds really count in this, they come into a separate category. And the 50mm Supershot was intended to have a nose cap (albeit a very blunt one) as shown below:


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