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    Early 18 Pounder case

    Just recieved this Vickers sons and Maxim ,18 pounder case dated 1905 , so the 18 pounder came into service in 1904 ,have any members got early cases in their collections ?Any pictures ,thoughts ,information appreciated
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    I have a few early 18 Pdr cases, including a few 1905 VSM cases similar to yours. My 1905 VSM cases also have 1906 acceptance dates, but quite late around mid-year from memory. Yours has had a hard and long life, with the primer dated 3/16. It also appears to have had the 4 projectile crimps beaten out to allow use of later projectiles, but no attempt to change the case designation to a Mk 1*? I hope it hasn't been cut down - should be around 294mm tall. Looks to have been refilled 4 times, annealed 4 times and had 2 scleroscope (hardness) tests. A well used case.

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    I have the following 18Pr cases noted in my files.

    18PR 1 RL 1905 8 1 06
    18PR 1 B 05 21 10 05
    18PR 1 VS&M 1905 25 5 06
    18PR 1 VS&M 1905 22 11 05
    18PR 1 KN 1905 11 9 05
    18PR 1 COW 1906 22 11 06

    18PR 1** RL 1905 13 12 05
    18PR 1** EOC 1/06 5 2 06
    18PR 1** RL 1906 18 4 06

    I do not have photos of all these. Taken from many sources. Ron.

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    Thanks for the replies ,my case measures out at 292 mm, as you say it's had a hard life .So with the gun entering service in 1904 ,I take it that out there( somewhere ?) should be cases dated 1904 or even 1903?can't bring a gun into service without anything to put in it ?And can anyone tell me what the cart wheel stamp at the 2 o'clock position means (just below the GRY ,)?
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    Hello,
    Your case is very interessant because the symbol VSM is at 9 o'clock. I have yet seen one on the Net but never had one in my hands. Here is what I have ( or what I had ) for the year 1905 (nothing before)
    1) B 05 date 1 1 06 .The new year's day !
    2) EOC 12/05 date 3 1 06
    3) KN 1905 date 24 8 05
    4) RL 1905 lot F3 date 1 8 05
    5) RL 1905 lot H10 date 11 1 06
    6) VSM 1905 without date
    7) VSM 1905 11 12 05
    8) VSM 1905 8 1 06
    9) VSM 1905 18Pr I, the I under 18Pr , 26 1 06
    9a) idem
    10) VSM 1905 28 2 06.
    I join the pictures of the VSM's made.
    Regards,
    Dandebur.6.jpg7.jpg8.jpg9.jpg9a.jpg10.jpg

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    1906 VSM used shrapnel projectiles show up now and again, but I have yet to find an early case over here.

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    Here's one of the 1905 VSM cases I have with a 1905 Kynoch projectile. The earliest VSM fuze I had was 9/06, so I'm using that for now.
    1905 case with an acceptance date of 22/06/06.

    For some reason the photos uploaded sideways.
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    Last edited by Darkman; 23rd May 2019 at 12:44 PM.

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