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    French WW1 Petard

    I bought this grenade with a collection a short while ago and I've failed to identify this French Artisanal grenade. It is mix of hairbrush and barbel with a tin cylinder to contain the explosives.

    Has anyone seen this type before?

    Thanks - John

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    Did you consider it could also be a german "Stielhandgranate Ersatz" ?

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    I Hadn't but thanks for the heads up. I'll see if I can find one. I did see a reference that the Germans made some of ration tins, so maybe this is one of them.
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    Hello,
    Known in France as german improvised grenade "petard" type (Behelfsmäßige Handgranate)
    Regards



    Different german "petard"

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    Last edited by MINENAZ16; 15th June 2019 at 02:24 PM.
    Any Live or Dug ordnance shown by me has been disposed of by EOD personnel .

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    Quote Originally Posted by MINENAZ16 View Post
    Hello,
    Known in France as german improvised grenade "petard" type (Behelfsmäßige Handgranate)
    Regards


    Different german "petard"
    Many thanks for your help. Much appreciated.
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    there ARE French TYPE, AND QUITE A FEW TOURIST MODELS MADE LONG AFTER THE WAR. aS THEY ARE, THE HONEST EXAMPLES, MADeUP FROM BITS , THEY ARE HARD TO TELL WHICH ARE French, AND WHICHare German without much experience. Lost my glasses somewhere, going blind at this tyme. The cats probably hid them!

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    Lot of mystery about these trench "non official" grenades.
    I found in french position of early ww1 many of unknown bodies of "petard raquette" with other well known official grenades.
    WW1 photos are not a good proof as soldier like to pose with enemy trophies...

    German soldiers (look at the cylindrical grenade - first picture)

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    French soldiers (sometimes with strange grenades, captured german grenades, french petard ??)

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    Many thanks for putting up those great photos. I'd not seen any of them before. I'm sure many other people will appreciate them as well. They illustrate very well the range of improvised grenades the Germans used.
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    Millsman, there was an article "Les grenades francaise de la Grande Guerre" in GAZETTE DES ARMES N ° 49 MAI 1977. It contain description of a few types improvised french "rackets", but your item was not represented, unfortunately.
    http://fr.1001mags.com/parution/gaze...texte-integral



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    Thank you very much - useful post.
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