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    Strange German 37mm PAK Cartridge Case

    This is listed for sale in the US as a Pak 36 37mm round. I am not certain if the projectile is a reproduction or a Flak 18 AP. However, I have never seen a Pak case marked like this. It looks like it has a 1944 date. I would love to get your thoughts. I am going to guess it is Hungarian or Romanian made.
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    Have a look at the thickness of the base ;-). It's a naval 3,7 cm S.K. C/36 case.

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    The 3,7 cm C/36 case was used in the naval 3,7 cm Flak M42.
    Compared with the Pak case it has a thicker rim. See picture below.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpini View Post
    Have a look at the thickness of the base ;-). It's a naval 3,7 cm S.K. C/36 case.
    this one?

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    Last edited by Nabob; 11th July 2019 at 04:34 PM.
    any live or recovered ordnance shown in my posts was dealt with by trained EOD personnel

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    I had no knowledge of this C36 weapon until now. Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nabob View Post
    this one?

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    Yes, it's correct


    @Greif: do you know any background about Flak M.42? I ask because powder bags of these cases were marked 3,7 cm S.K.C.36 and they are often loaded with AP shells.

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    The Pawlas Waffen-Revues nr. 106 and 107 are giving an elaborate technical description of this gun and its history.
    One specimen of the gun remains on the U 995 at Laboe (near Kiel) in Germany.
    Next to the German Navy Memorial the U 995 acts as a technical museum.
    See https://deutscher-marinebund.de/mari...-museum-u-995/

    The U boats often fired at sea targets with their gun(s), so I think in this caliber (3,7cm) AP shells were needed to succesfully penetrate the hull of a ship.
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    Thank you, I did read the article but it isn't mentioning anything about the strange name Flak M/40 which is an unusual designation for german naval guns (of course I have no doubt that it is the correct weapon for this case). The designation given in the headstamp of german naval cases is normaly the name of the gun. And here's a photo of the powder bag also with the '36 gun designation. Confusing isn't it?
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    I agree with you, it is very confusing. I consider the Pawlas Waffen Revues as a reliable source, but as you say nowhere in the article the name Flak M42 is explaned.
    I wonder if there is a MDv for this gun and its ammo. Thank you for showing the powder bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alpini View Post
    Yes, it's correct


    @Greif: do you know any background about Flak M.42? I ask because powder bags of these cases were marked 3,7 cm S.K.C.36 and they are often loaded with AP shells.
    Hello Alpini, would you happen to know what type of AP shell was loaded? I have never found any solid proof, but some articles mention that the same projectiles as used in FlaK 18 and 36/37 were used. I am inclined to think the Pzgr 18. would make sense in regard to the casing's dimensions.

    Greetz, Menno.

 

 
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