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    Anyone recognize this submunition?



    Does anyone recognize this submunition or have any info on how it works? If so, thanks for your help.

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    This is a Gravel mine, here is some info https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravel_mines Also found a vid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTWuzIL-Tlo
    Last edited by ANDY19422; 6th September 2019 at 08:54 PM. Reason: link added

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    Doesn't quite look correct though, the cloth and coloring is off. It could be the photo, but I suspect it might be a copy, perhaps made for training purposes.
    All dug or live ordnance shown in my posts is under EOD control and has been or will be dealt with accordingly by EOD personnel

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    Gravel Mine

    Quote Originally Posted by andrew.m_23 View Post


    Does anyone recognize this submunition or have any info on how it works? If so, thanks for your help.
    It's the inert training version of the XM45E1

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    It looks too new.
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    Looking for / Suche noch:
    -8,8cm Pzgr.40.
    -8,8cm D (drahtsperre)
    -8,8cm Pzgr.patr.Ub; Body -projectile & piercing cap- is one part, dummy base fuze.
    -8,8cm Messkartusche, (temperature gauge).
    -8,8cm Ex; Steel base and nose, rest inbetween resign.
    -8,8cm justiergranate/machine.
    -Ex ZtZ.S30 (with bearing instead of clock inside).

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    I assume designation of different models is ok on this website : http://www.inertord.com/subgravelmines.html
    Any Live or Dug ordnance shown by me has been disposed of by EOD personnel .

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    I' d have to check that by printing the posting and comparing it to your link.
    regretfully most internet sources where I got the rest of my info from are gone by now either have changed from provider.
    This posting is an old Wk2 ammo forum posting I placed here today
    Last edited by pzgr40; 3rd September 2021 at 11:41 AM.
    Looking for / Suche noch:
    -8,8cm Pzgr.40.
    -8,8cm D (drahtsperre)
    -8,8cm Pzgr.patr.Ub; Body -projectile & piercing cap- is one part, dummy base fuze.
    -8,8cm Messkartusche, (temperature gauge).
    -8,8cm Ex; Steel base and nose, rest inbetween resign.
    -8,8cm justiergranate/machine.
    -Ex ZtZ.S30 (with bearing instead of clock inside).

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    Quote Originally Posted by MINENAZ16 View Post
    I assume designation of different models is ok on this website : http://www.inertord.com/subgravelmines.html
    Not to sure about that. The designation looks like it is probably copied from the Picatinny CBU book, but I don't put much faith in a website that doesn't list their references. There is so much crap out there anymore by self professed "experts" that sorting through it can be a full time job.
    Again, I don't trust their photograph. The gravel mines appear to be made from a different cloth, the stitching is also different and some of the shapes don't look right. In addition the inert stamps are all identical and the cloth and wear of the cloth is the same on each. I'm throwing the bullshit flag.
    The only true ID collection/boards that I've seen for the gravel mines were at the Picatinny Arsenal Museum - broken down and shipped to Aberdeen - broken down and shipped to Ft. Lee. With items pilfered and lost at every stop I don't know if they still exists or not. They have been posted on this forum previously. While not all inclusive they are at least true and correct, not someone's fantasy pieces. There have also been some training pieces. I believe some were in one of the E. German training kits as well as one of the Chinese training kits. Those are also close, but not quite correct.
    All dug or live ordnance shown in my posts is under EOD control and has been or will be dealt with accordingly by EOD personnel

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