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    WW1 Bulgarian 75mm Mountain Gun Case

    This small case turned up in the UK recently and I added it to the collection based upon not often seeing German made cases for I think Bulgaria. The size is: length 118mm, rim 88mm and mouth 75/76mm. The case was without a primer, I have shown it with a standard German primer for the M15 Skoda mountain gun which screws in easily. Also pictured alongside a M15 case for comparison.
    My reading of the Cyrillic script would indicate the case was made in Karlsruhe, with an abbreviated Friedrich Krupp added to the case, dated 1917 with a Cyrillic G for date. This pattern of marking is similar to Krupp made cases for the Turkish military. The seller thought it was Russian, but I really don't think Krupp would be making export cases for Russia at this point! The only record of a case of this size I can find mentions a Krupp blockhouse gun. The general size for me could also indicate a mountain gun, very happy to be educated. I guess this item was a souvenir of the Salonika campaign, a part of WW1 often overlooked in the UK.
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    A good primer would be a "Fried. Krupp" stamped one. But they are difficult to find alone. Bulgaria is correct. The name of the gun should be 7,5 cm Geb. K. Krupp L/14.But I am sure there's not only one Krupp mountain gun which used this type of case. The gun was used during war also by the german army.

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    Hello Alpini,
    from my archive, the oldest case was made in 1898....
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    Very many thanks Alpini, great to have you contributing to this site!
    The Bulgarians and Turks used a Model 1904/05, mountain gun. Do you think this case size is correct for these guns?
    I will have to look out for a Friedrich Krupp primer!

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    Quote Originally Posted by fert View Post
    Hello Alpini,
    from my archive, the oldest case was made in 1898....
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    case number 835 (necked)? Or case number 40 (straight).

    I am not 100% sure about this one here...

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    Hello Alpini,
    This case has no identification code. 75x118 straight

    Here pic
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    About “40” just berndorf Made with Turkish primer, Do you see other cases with this marking?

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    Hello,
    Last year, I found the same case with cyrillic markings in addition of two others I found together about ten years ago. One made by Patronenfabrik Karlsruhe and one made by Berndorf. So, I think austrian army also used this gun. These two cases have the number 835 in the stamping, does anyone knows if it is a german or an austrian identification number?
    As said by Alpini, the three primers are stamped " Fried Krupp AG " and one has also the number 12 for C12 I guess.
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    Thanks to Alpini's identification of the case I had a look through the collection and came up with these 2 cases. One less necked, possibly fired, made in Düsseldorf in 1916. The same case from the same factory, made in 1914, is pictured with Arabic trench art, including a Camel. I would offer the guns that used this case were in use by Bulgaria, Germany and Turkey.
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