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    Unknown type of WW1 German grenade (hand or rifle)

    Hi all,
    please have a look at the attached photo. Its the lower left corner of an otherwise unhelpful German WW1 photo which shows a type of grenade which I just cannot identify. The grenades are fairly small, hand grenade size and look a bit - in my opinion - like 1917n/a with extras above the midline fragmentation ring.

    I posted this a while back in a FB group which deals with grenades but they also drew a blank other than it could be „nose caps for mortar rounds“. But no such mortar round is known to me (German, WW1).

    That is unfortunately already all that I can attribute here as I do not have any further info. Who has an idea what type of grenade can be seen on the photo?

    Thanks a lot!
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    Could it be this a model 1913 rifle grenade with the transit plug in place

    1913 rifle grenade germany.jpg

    more photos on lex's page
    http://www.lexpev.nl/grenades/europe...anate1913.html
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    I think we have a winner! Never managed to match it to that grenade, but now it is obvious! That was fast! Thanks a lot!
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    Unusual as the ones in the box don't have vertical grooves going all the way to the top.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kerfent View Post
    Hi all,
    please have a look at the attached photo. Its the lower left corner of an otherwise unhelpful German WW1 photo which shows a type of grenade which I just cannot identify. The grenades are fairly small, hand grenade size and look a bit - in my opinion - like 1917n/a with extras above the midline fragmentation ring.

    I posted this a while back in a FB group which deals with grenades but they also drew a blank other than it could be „nose caps for mortar rounds“. But no such mortar round is known to me (German, WW1).

    That is unfortunately already all that I can attribute here as I do not have any further info. Who has an idea what type of grenade can be seen on the photo?

    Thanks a lot!
    Could you post the picture with complete crate ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Millsman View Post
    Unusual as the ones in the box don't have vertical grooves going all the way to the top.
    i can see grooves in the photo

    09826350-975F-45F9-9522-964328C0B32A.jpg

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    I also had a look at this and was wondering. But, you can clearly discern the 2 horizontal grooves and if one looks exactly at the photo, you can discern the vertical grooves starting just below the lower horizontal one. So, the ID seems to be right.
    Quote Originally Posted by Millsman View Post
    Unusual as the ones in the box don't have vertical grooves going all the way to the top.

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    IMG_0013.jpg Geman 1913 riffle grenade

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    British designed !

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    Design stolen after the 1911 trials at Spandau no less.
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