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    9Pr RML .jpegMy 9Pdr RML Shrapnel projectile from a previous thread has solder at the joints.
    I cannot say it is original but it is hard.

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    Good evening,

    Many thanks TimG for the heads up regarding Amberley museum. Its certainly a place I'll visit, I'm interested in all things historical and industrial, and Amberley seems to encompass all of that. And of course the added plus of the Plumbing section....

    For members information, attached is an image of a 60Pdr Mk 1 Shrapnel, dated 1908 I have with an almost perfect Soldered join. (inert and FFE of course!).
    If I can replicate this on the humble 60Pdr stream lined type currently undergoing restoration, I shall be a happy chap...
    Again, many thanks to all for the input on this subject.
    Last edited by starshell; 16th October 2019 at 09:16 PM.

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    I wonder if the solder was may be applied only to the steel head which was pressed against the shell body when it was assembled?

    The following picture I found at https://www.flickr.com/photos/rpsmit...n/photostream/ and it shows the filling with lead balls. One steel head is visible in the background on the right side of the woman. I think they weighed the filled shell together with the steel head and compared the weight with the complete shell on the scale in foreground. If the steel head in the background was without the solder I guess it wasn't a good weight comparsion.
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    Incredible picture Alpini,

    Are these 60 Pdrs with economy driving band?
    I'm wondering if that 'calibrating' shell on the scale was at a weight prior to Solder going on, then further along the line another fully pinned and Soldered 'calibrating' shell was used at the solder stage?? I don't know.

    Looking at the castellated rings in the foreground, what were they used for? I can only think they were pushed into the shell body after filling with the Lead bullets to check for hole clearance before the head proper was fitted? (On second thoughts, scrub that idea. They look too small diameter wise....)
    Still, its a superb image all the same. Wonder how many of these woman suffered the effects of Lead later on?

    Many thanks!

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    It's interesting that she is filling the upturned nosecone with the shrapnel balls directly on top of the wooden block. I've never seen a wooden block with the remains of resin on it so I wonder how they stayed in place when the top was put on the body.
    Always looking for projectiles, cases, fuzes and paperwork related to Burney and Davis guns.

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    I would suggest this is a staged photo' in relation to the 'finished' projectile on the scales. There are numerous other operations, such as adding the resin, adding wood block and felt washer etc., which are carried out after adding the bullets, these would be carried out at different stations and would significantly add to the weight.

    TimG

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    60 Pdr lead seal....

    Further to a post I put here a while back regarding the process of applying the lead/solder 'seal' to 60 Pdr shrapnel projectiles, (to finish a restoration project I'm undertaking on a 60 Pdr 'streamlined' shell), I've found a fairly decent alternative.

    After fitting the ogive to the shell body, I seriously considered using lead/solder to seal the recess between the two, but the mess and toxic dangers it would have produced put me off, as well as not having any experience in the process anyway. It would have ended up a dogs dinner.

    After a lot of experimenting, I found a Grey 2 part epoxy Steel resin called JB Weld, which when sanded looks the colour of aged solder or lead. It looks relatively ok I think, and its easy to work.
    For anyone looking to restore similar, it might be worth looking into. (Apologies for the sidewards pics...)

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    That looks really good. Well done.
    Always looking for projectiles, cases, fuzes and paperwork related to Burney and Davis guns.

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