bacarnal (19th November 2019), highlandotter (19th November 2019), jvollenberg (19th November 2019),Rrickoshae (22nd November 2019)
Hi,
a new piece in the collection is this 8 sec. time and impact fuze for the 57 mm Nordenfelt gun.
I am looking for more info on the guns. My russian is also quite rusty so please help me translate the attached text.
The fuze is a brother to the 22 sec fuze here: http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/thread...ght=nordenfelt
Thanks, Bob
any live or recovered ordnance shown in my posts was dealt with by trained EOD personnel
bacarnal (19th November 2019), highlandotter (19th November 2019), jvollenberg (19th November 2019),Rrickoshae (22nd November 2019)
Hello,
I have a picture of the same fuze found on the web from a scandinavian museum (Finnish if I remember).
57 NORD.jpg57 fuze.jpg
Any Live or Dug ordnance shown by me has been disposed of by EOD personnel .
I see the word "shrapnel" at least three times in your Russian text.
Finland makes perfect sense, since it was an autonomous part of Russian empire before 1917.
Here is a part of the Rdultovsky book on fuzes. It says it was used with coastal guns. The text from my first post says something about fortification guns. My russian is not so good to get into the details.
Bob
any live or recovered ordnance shown in my posts was dealt with by trained EOD personnel
Last edited by greif; 19th November 2019 at 08:27 PM.
highlandotter (19th November 2019), Nabob (19th November 2019), ydnum303 (25th November 2019)
What I found sofar the case length for the 57 mm coastal gun is 128 mm.
The guns were bought by Russia. First thirty in 1894. I have found quite good info in the Shirokorad book Sovermenaja Artileria.
Bob
any live or recovered ordnance shown in my posts was dealt with by trained EOD personnel
My book gives no date, but I think it is not old enough and that the gun you are referring to was already out of production. Actually it gives 3 case lenghts for the 57 mm guns: 408, 306,6 and 224 mm’s.
This is a great fuse !!! I can only congratulate you. I have never seen such a fuse found in Russia.
Your text is written in the Russian language of the Tsarist period (until 1918). If you need a translation, I will help you)
This is the literal translation of your tech:
"Note! For shrapnel 57mm caponier guns, fuses of a conventional device could actually be suitable. The described fuse is assigned to shrapnel 57mm coastal guns, which have an initial speed of 1665 ft.sek. The purpose of this fuse is to 57mm. caponier shrapnel, the initial speed of which is much lower, is simply explained by the convenience of supplying fortresses with fuses. Yes, and the shrapnel itself at 57mm. cannon guns were also taken from a coastal gun of the same caliber."
MINENAZ16 (23rd November 2019), Nabob (25th November 2019),Rrickoshae (22nd November 2019), ydnum303 (25th November 2019)
Thank You,
the fuze was a part of an ashtray, the lower part made from a large calibre cartridge case with ornaments. (no headstamp).
My wife does not know how much it was :-)
any live or recovered ordnance shown in my posts was dealt with by trained EOD personnel
Gr.Fr (25th November 2019)
In my Maxim-Nordenfelt book there is a “Canon de 57 mm à tir rapide pour Caponnière” but is has a case length (longueur de la douille) of 224 mm. It has a Max range of 3000 meters with a time of flight of 10.47 sec. So a 8 sec time fuze perhaps runs too short for this gun.
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