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Unknown Manufacture markings Canadian or U.S. ?
- Thread starter Gspragge
- Start date
CCCo : Clinton Cartridge Co, USA
CCo : Canadian Cartridge Co
CCS : no info
Yoda
CCo : Canadian Cartridge Co
CCS : no info
Yoda
H
Hoeksel
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And I had Canadian Cartridge Company for CCCo, also for CSS (found as a web reference, but did not write down where)
Hello.
Please see my reply in the thread
http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/90703-1916-18-Pounder-Case-Markings
I think the stamping CCCo is found only on 4.5 Inch Mk II.
On earlier manufacturing the CCC seems more as brackets than as C. I join a pic of the lot W and for the lot ACX
Regards,
Dandebur.
Please see my reply in the thread
http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/threads/90703-1916-18-Pounder-Case-Markings
I think the stamping CCCo is found only on 4.5 Inch Mk II.
On earlier manufacturing the CCC seems more as brackets than as C. I join a pic of the lot W and for the lot ACX
Regards,
Dandebur.
Hello Dandebur
I also have an interest in these case makers and lot number codes.
I notice CCS on 18Pr Mk11, CCo on 18Pr mk11 and 13Pr 11, CC on 18Pr 11 . I note inspector 6 & 8 in a circle.
A summary of my lot numbers and years for interest.
CCS 18Pr 11 FOV 1916 16-9-16
CCS JAD 1917 26 2 17
CCS JRI 1917 27 3 17
CCS KTQ 1917 26 4 17
CCS MFL 1917 13 6 17
CCS RKK 1917 22 11 17
CCo 18Pr 11 CFK 1916 5 11 16
CCo 18Pr 11 DJN 1917 23 3 17
CCo 13Pr 11 SH 1916 29 5 16
CCo 13Pr 11 UT 1916 10 6 16
CC 18Pr 11 EEI 1916 21 6 16
I hope this data helps any researchers.
I also have an interest in these case makers and lot number codes.
I notice CCS on 18Pr Mk11, CCo on 18Pr mk11 and 13Pr 11, CC on 18Pr 11 . I note inspector 6 & 8 in a circle.
A summary of my lot numbers and years for interest.
CCS 18Pr 11 FOV 1916 16-9-16
CCS JAD 1917 26 2 17
CCS JRI 1917 27 3 17
CCS KTQ 1917 26 4 17
CCS MFL 1917 13 6 17
CCS RKK 1917 22 11 17
CCo 18Pr 11 CFK 1916 5 11 16
CCo 18Pr 11 DJN 1917 23 3 17
CCo 13Pr 11 SH 1916 29 5 16
CCo 13Pr 11 UT 1916 10 6 16
CC 18Pr 11 EEI 1916 21 6 16
I hope this data helps any researchers.
Gordon,
Apologies, it would appear I posted in the wrong thread. Canadian Cement Co. made projectiles. Concentric 'C's on a headstamp can generally be taken as one of the variations of the Canadian Cartridge Company.
Ron,
The three letter string was long suspected as being some form of Lot identifier. Snufkin eventually decoded it, confirming it as a Lot designation.
TimG
Apologies, it would appear I posted in the wrong thread. Canadian Cement Co. made projectiles. Concentric 'C's on a headstamp can generally be taken as one of the variations of the Canadian Cartridge Company.
Ron,
The three letter string was long suspected as being some form of Lot identifier. Snufkin eventually decoded it, confirming it as a Lot designation.
TimG
I have had a request for the brief collation of data I have put together, so herewith a screenshot of an Excel worksheet of 18-Pr head stamp dates and Lot codes from the Canadian Cartridge Co. I have gleaned the data from photos and descriptions posted on BOCN and elsewhere.
Canadian Lot size was 400, give or take a few for various reasons of proof or surplus. The Lots were identified by incremental letter codes, starting with single letters A to Z around mid 1915, then incrementing through two letters AA to ZZ, and ultimately to three, AAA to whatever was reached by the end of hostilities.
A couple of Lots are seen to be out of order, perhaps because the Lots failed at some point of inspection and were sent back for reworking, but otherwise the incremental Lot coding with date is very evident when tabulated as shown.
If anyone wants a copy of the Excel worksheet so as to add their own details for their records, PM an email address and I will be happy to send the sheet.
On the screenshot, items in blue are from Ron's posting in this thread.
Any errors in transcription of dates and codes are mine.
Tom.
Canadian Lot size was 400, give or take a few for various reasons of proof or surplus. The Lots were identified by incremental letter codes, starting with single letters A to Z around mid 1915, then incrementing through two letters AA to ZZ, and ultimately to three, AAA to whatever was reached by the end of hostilities.
A couple of Lots are seen to be out of order, perhaps because the Lots failed at some point of inspection and were sent back for reworking, but otherwise the incremental Lot coding with date is very evident when tabulated as shown.
If anyone wants a copy of the Excel worksheet so as to add their own details for their records, PM an email address and I will be happy to send the sheet.
On the screenshot, items in blue are from Ron's posting in this thread.
Any errors in transcription of dates and codes are mine.
Tom.
