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    Hungarian 20-MM

    Here is a Hungarian 20-MM. I think these were discussed before.
    What I am interested in is the differences in the headstamps and the markings.
    All the same round, different stamps.
    Are the 321, 268, 265 and 266 on these head stamps the manufacturer?


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    Here is a different one …
    Same question, which are the manufacturer markings?

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    Hi Joe,
    manufacturer identification is the H and A over each other. It is the Czepel ammunition plant.
    The numbers you mention are IMHO lot numbers.

    On the second round I am not 100% sure but I believe the P stands for Polte.

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    You are right. P stands for Polte Magdeburg.

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    Hmm, would not be surprised if it is Dutch. I have a theory but not proven that these cases, with S in triangle AND a number 2 at 3-o-clock could be Polte export for The Netherlands. Have been trying to find proof for a long time, but not found. The Dutch used both the 20x105B (aircraft gun Model 1937) and the 20x138B as anti-tank gun and as AA. Also the color of the projectile is often thought of as Dutch. In any way, a very rare round!
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    What about this 20x105B case? Primer looks odd , and only markings are P M , no L204 or anything so , is this PzB ? & what projectiles should it be used with ?

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    Probably a very early Polte development, maybe in the experimental phase.
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