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95mm shellcase

pzgr40

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I am looking for a shellcase for this 95mm tank gun projectile. Who can help me?
 

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There is one currently on Quickfire. I have a spare one, but it is in the US.
 
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I am looking for a shellcase for this 95mm tank gun projectile. Who can help me?


I know this is pedantic in the extreme, But make sure you have the right shell! 95mm's came in two versions I believe, one was a complete round, the other was split.
 
I know this is pedantic in the extreme, But make sure you have the right shell! 95mm's came in two versions I believe, one was a complete round, the other was split.

Hi Listy, in my world of experience that's not pedantic at all. You just point out that I should be carefull and refrain from buying the first ''obviously correct' shellcase that comes in sight. Pedantic in my way of thinking are those that read my question, have the awnsers, see I am buying the wrong shellcase, wait untill I post the cutaway model and than comment me that I made a mistake. Luckely there are only very few of those in out collecting community.

I Have done bussiness with enrico before, I will ask him to send me a picture of the base of the shellcase and I hope the great knowlidhge on this forum will help me to descide if it is the correct shellcase. The first thing however that occures to me is that the shell has a groove, the shellcase has not.

Thanks in advance,
regards, DJH
 

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The seperate loading round was used in the infantry howitzer and SP Alecto. The projectiles were the same but the case is not. The seperate loading round used a shorter case marked 95mm SP& INF and is only 92mm long, the 95mm tank case being 206mm long. The latter has four indents for crimping the projectile rather than a continuous crimp.
 
The discription with the shellcase is:

On auction one inert British 95mm Tank Howitzer case (95x185R) WW2 dated

Clear headstamps 95 MM I, LOT 157, RLB, 1943

Apperently it is 21 mm short of what it should be.....
 
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@ M8 owner,
Would you be willing to sell it in case I cannot find one on this side of the pond?
 
The discription with the shellcase is:

On auction one inert British 95mm Tank Howitzer case (95x185R) WW2 dated

Clear headstamps 95 MM I, LOT 157, RLB, 1943

Apperently it is 21 mm short of what it should be.....

Turned into an ashtray/desk tidy/umbrella stand?
 
Apperently it is 21 mm short of what it should be.....
That would explain the lack of crimps! I've just measured a 95mm case, which is actually nearer 204mm overall, the bottom of the crimp indent is at 185mm.
 
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Here are my two cases waiting for an HE and a smoke projectile. Both are 204mm. I had a third one, but I now think I sold it a few years ago.
 

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I thought to post a couple of pictures of both types of 95mm case mentioned in the thread. The long case, fixed ammunition for the tank gun and the short case for the towed infantry support gun. The short case is to my eye the same as the 3.7in mountain howitzer case, particularly the design of the rim. The SP and Infantry stamp is faint, but clearly different to the standard 3.7in case.
 

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Thanks for all the awnsers. It does help.
Now I understand there is a long bushing running down the shellbody , with a smokepellet in the lower part and two small rubber tubes filled with powdered tetryl. around this long bushing is a 0,5cm thick layer of pure TNT, the rest of the shell is filled with Amatol?
I have no info about the type of powder and the powder built up and packaging in the shellcase.
does anybody have good drawings?
 
Many HE shells had a smoke boxx to observe the point of impact. It was denoted on the outside of the shell with a green circle with tghe letter A or B stencilled in it. "A" meaning an aluminium bushing containing the red phosporous smoke mix, "B" meaning a bakelite bushing containing the smoke mix.

Regards, DJH
 
Thanks for all the awnsers. It does help.
Now I understand there is a long bushing running down the shellbody , with a smokepellet in the lower part and two small rubber tubes filled with powdered tetryl. around this long bushing is a 0,5cm thick layer of pure TNT, the rest of the shell is filled with Amatol?
I have no info about the type of powder and the powder built up and packaging in the shellcase.
does anybody have good drawings?

This will help.
 

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I suppose the Wm.042 cordite is tube shaped, can anybody help me on the outside diameter of the sticks?
Regards, DJH
 
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