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    A lot of information in the 2 volumes "La Flak 1914-1918" by Bernard Delsert, Jean-Jacques Dubois and Christian Kowal (I can provide contact details, just pm me). In these books, there's a mention of a case, especially designed to speed up the loading of the gun and thus the rate of fire. Does anyone have one of these cases?

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    Great condition shells. Would love to see the second shell with the KZ 11 Gr fitted.
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    I’ll get some pictures together in a couple of days with more detail.

    Thanks to all for the information to date.
    Always looking for projectiles, cases, fuzes and paperwork related to Burney and Davis guns.

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    As promised I have added pictures of the projectile with fuze and some close ups of the markings. There is nothing readable on the base.

    @minenaz16 the height of the projectile is 194mm.

    Let me know if any questions arise.

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    Always looking for projectiles, cases, fuzes and paperwork related to Burney and Davis guns.

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    I assume rare shell.
    Thanks a lot for sharing and keeping knowledge.
    The fuze is not common as well.
    I know Kz11Gr o Az graduated to 30 but this one is very interesting, Kz11 Gr Zl o Az graduated to 72 (like Kz11 Gr l.B.). Nice
    Last edited by MINENAZ16; 31st July 2020 at 07:46 PM.
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    I thought they used a KZ 14 on this one. Could be wrong though.

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    There are differents types of K Z 11 Gr OAZ:
    -graduated to 4 to 30 (graduated from 4 to 4) fuze from 1916 modified 1917, L.B.(long delay), noze steel used on 7.62cm Gr FLAK
    -graduated to 4 to 72 OAZ , 1917 1918 production, noze steel or zinc used on 7,7 cm Gr15 an 7.62 cm FLAK

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bever View Post
    I thought they used a KZ 14 on this one. Could be wrong though.
    K.Z.11 is correct. If I remember right in the "La FLAK" books there is a copy of a German Flak ammunition manual in which this 9 cm shell is pictured. And I also have seen this shell found in Germany with K.Z.11.
    Last edited by Alpini; 1st August 2020 at 10:04 AM.

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    The Dutch army also used the Kz11 Gr graduated to 72 on this shell. The Dutch designation was Tijdschokbuis No 11.
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    I can read Zl o Az, so the same fuze but strange to see the percussion device in diagrams (?)
    Any Live or Dug ordnance shown by me has been disposed of by EOD personnel .

 

 
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