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    PTAB designation



    what is the proper designation for this submunition? I've seen it variously described as 'PTAB 2.5', 'PTAB 2.5KO', 'PTAB 2.5 kilo', 'PTAB 85' or simply 'PTAB'... unsure as to which is correct, or if indeed PTAB refers to the entire weapon system (canister and bomblets) rather than just the submunition?? PTAB could also refer to the family of weapons developed from WW2 rather than specific model?

    I have also read that there are two variants of this one pictured above, differing in the length of the tail?
    always looking for inert baton rounds and accessories - please message me if you have any for sale/trade.

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    Following US TM-T-35-2-11, designation is PTAB 2,5 KO


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    It should be, in English, PTAB-2.5KO. In Russian ПТАБ-2,5КО. Russia uses a comma to denote the decimal point.

    PTAB is an acronym of Protivotankovaya Aviatsionnaya Bomba (Противотанковая Авиационная Бомба), so literally in English, Anti-tank Aerial Bomb. The 'K' is presumably short for Kumulyatyvnaya (Кумулятивная), aka a shaped charge, whilst the 'O' is short for 'Oskolochno' (Осколочно), aka fragmenting.

    As per most Russian bombs, the 2.5 (2,5) bit is its weight class in kg. The additional numbers after the PTAB-2.5 bit, if present, normally means its actual nominal weight in kg.

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    Great answers, thanks guys just ordered an inert late-‘80s dated one... is there anywhere I can read more about these - variants, how they were used, operational history etc?
    always looking for inert baton rounds and accessories - please message me if you have any for sale/trade.

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    Quote Originally Posted by batonroundcollector View Post
    Great answers, thanks guys just ordered an inert late-‘80s dated one... is there anywhere I can read more about these - variants, how they were used, operational history etc?

    In English, there's not much out there. In Russian, there's quite a lot. Most of the material I have is in Russian.

    Where I work I have processed the PTAB-2.5M and its AV-524M (АВ-524М) fuze, but the I haven't rewritten the PTAB-2.5KO, or other PTAB entries yet.

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    This is what i have in english about the PTAB-2.5KO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggburt1969 View Post
    PTAB is an acronym of Protivotankovaya Aviatsionnaya Bomba (Противотанковая Авиационная Бомба), so literally in English, Anti-tank Aerial Bomb. The 'K' is presumably short for Kumulyatyvnaya (Кумулятивная), aka a shaped charge, whilst the 'O' is short for 'Oskolochno' (Осколочно), aka fragmenting.
    KO is Kumulyativno-Oskolochnaya (Кумулятивно-Осколочная)
    Осколочно is incorrect on Russian. If OK - Oskolochno-Kumulyativnaya, then Осколочно-Кумулятивная and you destignation is correct on Russian too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ivashkin View Post
    KO is Kumulyativno-Oskolochnaya (Кумулятивно-Осколочная)
    Осколочно is incorrect on Russian. If OK - Oskolochno-Kumulyativnaya, then Осколочно-Кумулятивная and you destignation is correct on Russian too.

    Thanks for correcting it Ivan,

    I don't profess to understand all the tenses, genders, singular/plural, and other modifications to words in Russian I'm sorry to say.

    Frankly I have enough trouble with English!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggburt1969 View Post
    Thanks for correcting it Ivan,

    I don't profess to understand all the tenses, genders, singular/plural, and other modifications to words in Russian I'm sorry to say.

    Frankly I have enough trouble with English!

    Neil
    Yes, too a lot of ending in Russian language. The most important, that you know correct explanation of marking
    I have enough trouble with English too

 

 

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