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    Unknown Fuze (to me)

    Can anybody identify this fuze for me please.
    Found on a 15 cm.
    Markings are O T V and an arrow

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    It's a Krupp percussion fuze with setable delay, delivered to many countries. Used for 9,xx until 15,xx cm shells. Maybe even larger. With 0 T V possibly made for the Netherlands or Belgium. Sweden, Bulgaria and South American countries had them too and for sure some other I don't know. Also Germany used them during 1st WW. Inside the shell it's a pretty long and heavy fuze and not often seen.

    0 = without delay
    T = transport
    V = delay

    Drawing can be found in the dutch manuals for example (can't access my archive at moment)
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    Fuze

    Alpini do you mean the Swedish M12 fuze (see photo).
    If you have any information from a (Dutch) manual please share it.

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    The Dutch equivalent of this fuze is the Schokbuis No. 8.
    It is marked:
    ZV = zonder vertraging (without delay)
    MV = met vertraging (delayed)
    VEILIG (safe)
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    Hello Chris,
    We already talked about it in this post : http://www.bocn.co.uk/vbforum/thread...e+shell+german
    I found the same on a fired 15cm (same as Gr14) in ww1 battelfield (I thought to German shell or captured Belgian shell used by German).

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    So the fuzes have the same working principal but the outside looks a bit different.
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    Yes, there are different shapes of these fuzes but the functionality is always the same. I really wonder if your fuze was may be introduced in Belgium? But I don't have documents about Belgium, it's still a black box for me. Do you know in which country it was found? I also wouldn't wonder if the Netherlands at least got some of them for trials. The Dutch No.2 is also one of this series, probably the earliest.

    @MINENAZ16: This 15 cm Gr. 14 was called may be "15 cm Gr. 14 mit Krupp-Zünder". I read about it in the archives but sadly no drawing was attached. But there is still one more candidate for this shell: the dutch Schokbuis No.16 because it would fit directly into a 15 cm Gr.14 and I think it was used during WW1 (most probably taken from stocks produced for the Netherlands which were never delivered because the war started)
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    Thank you Alpini,

    They told me they were found in Belgium on 15 cm Shells
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    So exactly the same shell I found in the Somme.
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