Is there a German LWMZdr2T marked fuze?
I am trying to confirm if this variant exists, or why there would be a T after the 2.
Joe
I am trying to confirm if this variant exists, or why there would be a T after the 2.
Joe
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I don't have one. It was just a question. I thought the same thing. They are probably looking at the factory. The only variant I know is the 2*.
Joe
Joe
It’s possible that they were referring to the manufacturer but not necessarily.
Attached several images of a LWMZdr. 2 T. Has black paint below the thread & also some black or very dark blue paint above where the gaine starts.
What does this T stand for?
I’ve been asking myself this question for quite a long time , after seeing it on the Z.s.u.m. W.M. T. ; EHZ. 17 T. (+) ; U. E.K.Z. 17 T. ; Hbgr. Z. 17 T. ; ...
Only thing I’ve been able to find on it , but I am unsure if it’s even related , is the following :
- T = Tetryl (used in some fuzes)
But then theres another question , if T is indeed to indicate Tetryl , what does this mean for the use of these fuzes? Are they used on specific shells , or ? I haven’t been able to figure this one out as of yet. Perhaps one of you knows more ?
Attached several images of a LWMZdr. 2 T. Has black paint below the thread & also some black or very dark blue paint above where the gaine starts.
What does this T stand for?
I’ve been asking myself this question for quite a long time , after seeing it on the Z.s.u.m. W.M. T. ; EHZ. 17 T. (+) ; U. E.K.Z. 17 T. ; Hbgr. Z. 17 T. ; ...
Only thing I’ve been able to find on it , but I am unsure if it’s even related , is the following :
- T = Tetryl (used in some fuzes)
But then theres another question , if T is indeed to indicate Tetryl , what does this mean for the use of these fuzes? Are they used on specific shells , or ? I haven’t been able to figure this one out as of yet. Perhaps one of you knows more ?
DICKAREN
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Do you have photo's of the other fuzes you mention that have the T marked on them?
Richard
greif
Well-Known Member
That is the same explanation the French handbook on German fuzes gives to it.
2nd line from bottom.
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yes , exactly.
but what does this tell me about the use for these? Have been asking myself that for a long time.
DICKAREN
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Thanks Bever,
Any chance of photo's of the entire fuzes
I know it doesn’t make sense. That’s why I mentioned it.
I just can’t seem to find a clear answer on if the T marking indicates that the use for these fuzes differs from the ones without the T & if someone knows this by any chance ?
added several images to compare ,
- 2 different Hbgr Z 17’s that both seem to have the T marking on them
- 1 other Hbgr Z 17 that clearly does not have the T marking
I could very well be wrong about the T on these Hbgr Z 17’s , but it just seems odd to me that two different fuzes appear to have this marking on exactly the same spot.
I just can’t seem to find a clear answer on if the T marking indicates that the use for these fuzes differs from the ones without the T & if someone knows this by any chance ?
added several images to compare ,
- 2 different Hbgr Z 17’s that both seem to have the T marking on them
- 1 other Hbgr Z 17 that clearly does not have the T marking
I could very well be wrong about the T on these Hbgr Z 17’s , but it just seems odd to me that two different fuzes appear to have this marking on exactly the same spot.
Interesting, from the following extract from the German Army Handbook April 1918, in the attached Minenwerfer table, the fuse types are labelled either (T and P) or just (P).
Since there is a (P) only variation, would the "T" perhaps just indicate "Time" i.e. just a basic time fuze only used for specific purposes? [as oppose to "Time and Percussion" (T and P) or a (P) type ].
Just an out of the box thought................
Since there is a (P) only variation, would the "T" perhaps just indicate "Time" i.e. just a basic time fuze only used for specific purposes? [as oppose to "Time and Percussion" (T and P) or a (P) type ].
Just an out of the box thought................
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Again , I could very well be wrong about the Hbgr. Z. 17
Will edit post if that turns out to be the case.
But besides that , does the T marking on the other ones indicate a difference in what they’d be used on compared to ones that are not marked with a T ? Because especially with the LWMZdr2T , all the black paint below the thread must mean something more or less significant I’d imagine? Also , the U. E.K.Z. as well as the EHZ 17 mentioned earlier besides from having the T marking , both also have the + marking (gas shells if I’m correct?) , so what does this tell me about this ?
Some gas shells seem to have a reduced charge , but if what I read about Tetryl being very powerful , and I can’t seem to find any more documents that mention or explain this in further detail besides : ‘some fuzes (gaines) contained tetryl’ & that’s usually all they mention.
I know theres more types of gas shells , but does this indicate that these T marked ones are always for use on gas shells / mortars , or not necessarily ?
Will edit post if that turns out to be the case.
But besides that , does the T marking on the other ones indicate a difference in what they’d be used on compared to ones that are not marked with a T ? Because especially with the LWMZdr2T , all the black paint below the thread must mean something more or less significant I’d imagine? Also , the U. E.K.Z. as well as the EHZ 17 mentioned earlier besides from having the T marking , both also have the + marking (gas shells if I’m correct?) , so what does this tell me about this ?
Some gas shells seem to have a reduced charge , but if what I read about Tetryl being very powerful , and I can’t seem to find any more documents that mention or explain this in further detail besides : ‘some fuzes (gaines) contained tetryl’ & that’s usually all they mention.
I know theres more types of gas shells , but does this indicate that these T marked ones are always for use on gas shells / mortars , or not necessarily ?
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