What's new
British Ordnance Collectors Network

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

The WW2 GERMAN 3,7cm DRILL / BLANK / PRACTICE Flak or Pak , Heer or Naval

kz11gr

Well-Known Member
Hi,

Do you have please some photos of WW2 3.7cm German rounds : Blank, or Drill or practice ? Pak or Flak .
Cases with wood , Bakelit , kunststoff , plastic.

--- Thank you--
 
Thank you for the photo and the document.

Do you know if a case with wooden shell exist ?
I have seen a hollow wooden 3,7cm (german i think) . One driving band .
But i don't know if this is an official fabrication or built by somebody to complete a case.

--

--
 
3,7cm Flak dummy :
37x263b-GN-001-01.jpg37x263b-GN-001-04.jpg

3,7cm Pak dummy :
37x249r-GN-002-01.jpg37x249r-GN-002-03.jpgManipulation.jpg

3,7cm Pak subcaliber (.22LR) :
37x249r-GN-013-01.jpg37x249r-GN-013-02.jpg37x249r-GN-013-03.jpg37x249r-GN-013-04.jpg37x249r-GN-013-05.jpg

3,7cm Pak Ex (dummy ?)
37x249r-GN-022-01.jpg37x249r-GN-022-04.jpg

3,7cm Flak Platzpatrone (original ?)
37x263b-GN-035-02.jpg37x263b-GN-035-04.jpg

3,7cm Flak Platzpatrone (Probably a whimsical fabrication)
37x263b-GN-017-01.jpg37x263b-GN-017-02.jpg37x263b-GN-017-04.jpg
 
Bonjour 37Bis
Merci pour cette superbe série :tinysmile_grin_t:

Thank you for these beautiful and rare rounds.
 
3.7cm anti ricochet projectiles fired from captured emplaced French FT17 turret by German forces. Some are French, others are German copies.

3.7 Anti Richochet.jpg
 
To Bully 1970 :
These are french "boulet d'instruction" (instruction balls) for training on the shooting range.

37x94r-FR-037-02.jpg136.jpg
 
3,7cm Pak 36 Üb (Practice) + practice tracer base fuse :
37x249r-GN-010-02.jpg37x249r-GN-010-03.jpg37x249r-GN-010-04.jpg37x249r-GN-010-06.jpg37x249r-GN-010-10.jpg37x249r-GN-010-11.jpg

An another practice base fuse or tracer plug :
37x249r-GN-033-05.jpg37x249r-GN-033-01.jpg

An another Übung shell :
37x249r-GN-014-04.jpg37x249r-GN-014-05.jpg

Minengranate Übung :
37x249r-GN-029-12.jpg37x249r-GN-029-03.jpg37x249r-GN-029-04.jpg37x249r-GN-029-05.jpg37x249r-GN-029-09.jpg37x249r-GN-029-11.jpg

Model not precisely identified (contains dark matter, like Bakelite), no pyrotechnic device:
37x249r-GN-036-02.jpg37x249r-GN-036-03.jpg37x249r-GN-036-04.jpg

For gun test (?)
37x249r-GN-011-01.jpg37x249r-GN-011-02.jpg37x249r-GN-011-03.jpg


And a Hungarian practice 3,7cm Pak 36 shell :
37x249r-HU-003-01.jpg37x249r-HU-003-02.jpg37x249r-HU-003-06.jpg37x249r-HU-003-04.jpg37x249r-HU-003-05.jpg
 
A 3,7cm KwK Manoverkartusche and a case for my 3,7cm Pak Ub.
 

Attachments

  • IMG_4050.jpg
    IMG_4050.jpg
    191.9 KB · Views: 38
  • IMG_4062.jpg
    IMG_4062.jpg
    276.9 KB · Views: 37
Hello kz11gr,

J'ai pu constater que le gorge de sertissage sur le Pak est juste sous la ceinture, alors que sur le Flak, elle se situe plus bas. On peut constater aussi cela sur les douilles.

I have seen that the crimping groove on the Pak is just below the band, while on the Flak, it is lower. This can also be seen on the cases.

Didier
 
To Bully 1970 :
These are french "boulet d'instruction" (instruction balls) for training on the shooting range.

View attachment 171919View attachment 171920

Sorry for reviving but I wanted to provide some more info on these - there appears to be 2 different types with minor differences. The French type have markings on them and are made fo good quality steel. Another type has a dished internal crown (sorry hard to describe) and is not possible at present to preserve as the steel is of bad quality and they always fall apart after a few months, I assume German copies? The French ones do not fall apart and survive well.
 
Top