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    Unknown object to ID, please

    Hello everyone,
    yesterday, I received from a brother in arms, a request for the identification of an unidentified object. I hope someone here can help us with a correct identification.

    Location of discovery: an Estonian garden

    Length : 21,3 cm
    Diam : 3,2 cm
    Weight : 366 grms

    Explosive : tested with Expray, 1 group, TNT
    Metal of body : steel

    The two grooves (base of the head and 1.2 cm from the base) are apparently identical and have a width of 0.2 cm.

    More details will be impossible to obtain, the object having already been transformed into light and heat (destroyed for those who do not understand the hint!)

    See the attached pictures. Again, I very much hope someone can help us identify this object. Personally, I would like to obtain a document reference concerning the object.

    Thanks to all


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    No help whatsoever with a positive ID, but going by the thin casing and rounded tip my guess would be something akin to a bangalore torpedo,...but for the size....
    Or perhaps a civillian mining/demolition charge for limited objectives.
    Last edited by pzgr40/42; 22nd May 2022 at 09:11 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pzgr40/42 View Post
    No help whatsoever with a positive ID, but going by the thin casing and rounded tip my guess would be something akin to a bangalore torpedo,...but for the size....
    Or perhaps a civillian mining/demolition charge for limited objectives.
    pzgr40/42, when I saw the first picture, I had the same idea, a bang torp head, but then I received the dimensions and...

    Thanks for answer


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    Does anyone have another idea, perhaps ?


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    If you don't limit your imagination by geography - it looks a lot like the body - minus tail, of the long Japanese submunition, a variation/cross between the German incendiary tail and a stretched German/Japanese HEAT type head. Size is pretty close as well. A lot of designs appear shared/copied from that period between Japan, Germany and Russia - perhaps?
    Last edited by US-Subs; 25th May 2022 at 09:23 AM.
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    Yoda,
    Did you search in family of central burster (HE gaine beneath a fuze) ?
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    Here is the best photo I have at work. Second row down, left side.

    DSC_8614.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by MINENAZ16 View Post
    Yoda,
    Did you search in family of central burster (HE gaine beneath a fuze) ?
    It was my second idea, MinenAZ16, but I couldn't find anything similar. In addition, there is no system for attaching the booster to the fuze, no screws, crimping marks,...


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    Quote Originally Posted by US-Subs View Post
    If you don't limit your imagination by geography - it looks a lot like the body - minus tail, of the long Japanese submunition, a variation/cross between the German incendiary tail and a stretched German/Japanese HEAT type head. Size is pretty close as well. A lot of designs appear shared/copied from that period between Japan, Germany and Russia - perhaps?
    Do you mean this one, US-Subs ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by MINENAZ16 View Post
    Yoda,
    Did you search in family of central burster (HE gaine beneath a fuze) ?
    Something like this, Minenaz ?
    Badly, I have no dimensions in my docs !


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