Info on a possible Spitfire Round

[RogerKP]

I have recently acquired this round - sold as a Spitfire 20mm HE. I know this wasn't made exclusively for the Spit , but I think it's an Hispano, possibly an Incendiary of some sort as it's green.

Headstamp is DAC ( Dominion Arsenal) 43 20mm
Fuze is LOT -47-ZZ415-59-42
with 253 IM /N0 ? underneath - bit hard to read
Projectile MK3 24 LMLST ? 27

Projectile has a solid base so I would think not a tracer. It 's not straight, being a bit wider at the top.

This is a new to me, I normally collect German aircraft ammo!

Thanks for your help

Roger

 

[MINENAZ16]

Members in other posts showed same shell with Mk3 markings, described as US Navy Oerlikon

 

[ron3350]

Check the drive band width. Hispano is 5mm. Oerlikon is 4mm. The Oe case has a reduced rim as you would know.
If the projectiles are loose the Hispano base measures 19.5mm and the Oerlikon is only 18.8mm .

 

[RogerKP]

Check the drive band width. Hispano is 5mm. Oerlikon is 4mm. The Oe case has a reduced rim as you would know.
If the projectiles are loose the Hispano base measures 19.5mm and the Oerlikon is only 18.8mm .

On measuring the drive band and the base, I would agree that it seems to be an Oerlikon. Presume a US Navy issue as above?
And basically I've been sold a bummer?!!!!! So much for just wanting one British fighter round!

By the way, when I removed the projectile to measure it, I noticed the base is solid. Does this mean no tracer element?



Thanks for your help
Roger

 

[ron3350]

It is not a bummer. You have a nice Oe projectile and a nice Canadian Hispano case. Same value as a proper Hispano??
Just find the correct case and projectile and you have 2 nice items.

 

[HAZORD]

In addition, the projectile ogive curvature and reduced diameter center body are visually characteristic Oerlikon.

And, yes Solid Base means no tracer. No place for the trace burning to exit.