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    ID number 10

    Made of compressed card/paper, and marked with ECP so French (?) is it a grenade handle?
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    Hello,
    Bump this thread.
    Looks like a "pétard", "artifice" or "signal" for explosion simulation or something similar. Typical shape (card-paper, black cover and white markings, safety fuse). Maybe 30's era.
    The narrowing (venturi role) at the base could also match with the stick (propellant) of signal ("fusée de signal") ; some kind of small paper rocket signal (in this case your device could be incomplete).
    Could you give dimensions (length and diameter) ?
    Can you see other markings after ECP (lot and date) ?
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    Herewith a example of "Fusée signal" (marking ECP and maybe 1921) - no details on this grenade (use - filling) :

    Fusée signal.jpg

    Cutaway of another one :

    Fusée signal cut.jpg
    Last edited by MINENAZ16; 28th June 2020 at 09:13 PM.
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    I think the answer is in "Manuel des munitions" 1932, pp. 91-99 available on Gallica : https://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/bp...es%20munitions

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    S.

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    Yes at the same time, I was looking in this book.
    Maybe 27mm signal (34mm seem to have no external venturi at the base)

    27mm fusee signal 1917.jpg27mm fusee signal model 1917.jpg
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    Interesting to see a similar rocket was in British service : http://michaelhiske.de/Allierte/USA/.../Figure216.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by MINENAZ16 View Post
    Hello,
    Bump this thread.
    Looks like a "pétard", "artifice" or "signal" for explosion simulation or something similar. Typical shape (card-paper, black cover and white markings, safety fuse). Maybe 30's era.
    The narrowing (venturi role) at the base could also match with the stick (propellant) of signal ("fusée de signal") ; some kind of small paper rocket signal (in this case your device could be incomplete).
    Could you give dimensions (length and diameter) ?
    Can you see other markings after ECP (lot and date) ?
    Regards

    Herewith a example of "Fusée signal" (marking ECP and maybe 1921) - no details on this grenade (use - filling) :

    Fusée signal.jpg

    Cutaway of another one :

    Fusée signal cut.jpg
    Sorry for the tardy response. The dimensions of this item are 40mm diameter, , 258mm long and 230mm to the point where the black colouring stops. As has been suggested I think the top cone is missing. It does look like the " "Fusée signal" (marking ECP and maybe 1921) as noted in Minen's post. It contained black powder. Thanks to all for the ID.
    Always looking for projectiles, cases, fuzes and paperwork related to Burney and Davis guns.

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