American fuse model 1914-15

[Birdseye]

Another "find".

About 4.75" tall, thread diameter is 1.75" or so. Marked to 45 seconds. Forward end is stamped "Dummy". Back end with the timing ring looks functional.

Any ideas as to what round it fit and is there any trick to getting it apart?

BTW this and the shell that I posted on the projectiles forum cost 60 USD. Which I make to be a bit less than 30 pounds. I'm sort of curious about prices across the pond vs. here.

 

[Birdseye]

bump.........................

 

[Mrfuze]

Hi,
looks actually like the common 45sec T&P fuze mod.1914-15 with a modified top on it, which I have never seen this way mounted.
Any more markings? Could it be that the upper fuze part don't belong to the lower body??
Mrfuze, USA

 

[Birdseye]

:embarassed: Thats exactly what it is.

Two pieces.

Jerk that I am. Thanks.

Hi,
looks actually like the common 45sec T&P fuze mod.1914-15 with a modified top on it, which I have never seen this way mounted.
Any more markings? Could it be that the upper fuze part don't belong to the lower body??
Mrfuze, USA

 

[shelldude]

Unidentified U.S. fuze...

This is an old thread that never received a correct answer, so here's what the fuze is: It's a U.S. Navy 45 second combustion time fuze, MARK XVI MOD 5 dated 1934. These fuzes were the precursor to the familiar MK XVIII Mechanical time fuze. They function identically to the 45 second Time & Percussion fuze Mod. 1914-15 other then the fact they were assembled WITHOUT the percussion feature. The brass safety pin around the nose secures the concussion plunger until its removal prior to firing. This fuze is stamped: MARK XVI MOD 5 - PA 34 - LOT 1397-7 AJS - U.S.N. FUZE. The fuze dimensions are 4 & 1/2" by 2 & 7/8 ". They are relatively scarce to find.

Best regards,

Randall

 

[Shell Shifter]

Interesting. Mine has no navy marks.

 

[dano1917]

Another Scovill variation?? Dano

 

[Shell Shifter]

The nose is stamped "DUMMY"

 

[Mrfuze]

Hi Randall, I just came across your bloc about the MK XVI fuze. I have 2 of them in my collection. One is marked with U.S.N. FUSE MARK XVI P.A. LOT 1931.
This fuze I got in "original" condition and I had to work myself on it. So this one has the plunger assembly in the base (impact assembly).
My question is, since I don't have any docs on it, is this now considered a powder train time fuze (w/o imapct assembly, your statement)? It should be a TSQ fuze as I see it. If you have any docs about this, please let me know! Thanks
Mrfuze, USA

 

[shelldude]

Hello Erhard,

It was great to hear from you! I've included some photographs of the only information I've ever come across regarding the MK XVI (Navy) or M37A1 (Army) Time & Impact fuze. I was trying to rack my brain why I thought the base percussion element wasn't included and I couldn't come up with an answer. You're correct of course, it is a time & impact fuze. My fuze still contains it's black powder train but is inert without any explosive component (empty detonator).

Best regards,

Randall

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[RyanDale]

Gents,

New to the forum and thought I would add a recent, on topic, hand-me-down to your discussion. I know very little about this shrapnel shell/fuse but it has model 1914-15 marking at the base of the fuse.. The shell was coated with a spray enamel at some point in the past and I'm in the process of stripping it down. I'm exposing the fuse and shell markings as I progress. I'll be sure to post any significant findings. See pics below.

 

[Ranger32]

Hello, I have one these shells and it is 19 1/2 in tall. I got it from a lady whose husband
passed away. It is hollow, inert and is a 155 mm. I have tried to figure out what time period these were used. I assume
a Model 1914-15 would be WWI, but were they used up to the time of Vietnam. One of your pics (#1) has what appears to be a date
starting with 73 something. Is that a date or not? Mine has a partial that looks like that. As I sell, I do not want to describe incorrectly. Mine also has lot 4675, Model 1914-15 and B.H. 18. Any clue what these numbers mean. Seems like I could use the lot # to tell when it is made. I am at a loss and do not know if it should sell for $100 or $300 (duh). My primary hobby area is Civil War. Perhaps you know of a website you can refer me to- and maybe even a retail price would help greatly. Many Thanks (I could send you a picture, but I have not figured out how to do that yet (DUH).

 

[Ranger32]

I have one of these as well- I am trying to help a lady sell it in a store where I sell
There I just figured out to post my first pictures. Any idea the time period this was used. Is it U.S. made. Any idea as to the retail price. As you can see, mine is rusty but looks identical to yours. Any idea how old yours (and mine) is. The numbers I see on mine: Model 1914-15, Lot 4675 and BH 18. I wish I could track the age somewhere online. Many Thanks

 

[dano1917]

A U.S. WW1, Scovill sim, highly doubtful that any of these made it in the war. Time was of value and U.S. adopted many weapons from allies. Neat piece, I agree with mrfuze that that was one pieced together, but you never know as something is always turning up. I think one could make a hell of an inexpensive collection of U.S. WWI era fuzes...Dano

 

[frijoles108]

Hi,
looks actually like the common 45sec T&P fuze mod.1914-15 with a modified top on it, which I have never seen this way mounted.
Any more markings? Could it be that the upper fuze part don't belong to the lower body??
Mrfuze, USA

I thought I would add onto this thread to link my example up with the one discussed here. Mine is also marked m1914 to 15, and I do agree with MrFuze, that it almost seems to be a added on piece to the 45 second (and smaller profile) fuze. Perhaps this is how this model of naval fuzes started out? As a modification of the model 1914-15? Mine however, does have a slightly different midsection compared to Birdseye's.
I also noted, that the top parts have serials and other letters on it, that I can get more photos of if anyone wants them. You can see them the best in the third picture. I haven't seen marks like them on the other examples like mine (that have the m1914-15 base).