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    German WW1 Granatenwerfer Projectile

    This German WW1 Granatenwerfer belongs to a friend of mine,Its in very nice condition with quite a lot of the original paint finish.
    The inerted fuze unscrews and is marked on top P W H
    The segmented boy is also stamped
    at the fuze end it is stamped F
    At the tail end it is stamped 12
    The tail section does not unscrew,there is no cartridge present.
    Because it does not strip fully a small hole has been drilled and clearly marked to allow the round to be visually proven fully inert if required.
    Can anyone add more info on this round its markings ,method of firing etc
    Also what category does this fit into..grenades,mortars ??
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    Last edited by spotter; 19th October 2008 at 04:10 PM.

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    Thats a lovely round.I let one go on ebay last year as i only try to collect ww2.
    I always thought the tails were repros as the original ones made from thin stell would have rotted ages ago?
    I will try and find some pics of it for you to compare with?

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    This is all original waff its not a dug example,any idea what the markings previously mentioned on the fuze are ? is it the fuze maker ?

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    Guernsey police used one for training and it was found to still have a live cartridge in place

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    Hi Spott,

    I would be certain that said letters would be the fuze maker.Im afraid i dont have a list from ww1 but i bet its the same boys who made fuzes in the second WW?


    Update..
    P W H doesnt seem to be on my code list but its an old one not updated in 3 years.
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    Last edited by waffenamt; 19th October 2008 at 08:04 PM. Reason: added info

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    Warning!!

    Re. the previous post.

    Nearly all of these have the live launching cartridge still inside at the top of the tail. There was a very serious accident a few years ago at the MOD Pattern Room when a bomb on a launcher spontaneously launched and hit a member of staff. A subsequent inspection of all museum examples proved the great majority still had a live launch cartridge inside.

    Whilst if the bomb is not on a launcher it is less of a danger, the cartridge could still go off!

    Check it very carefully.

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    There is definately NO cartridge inside ,i thoroughly checked this item at the request of my friend prior to posting the images on site.From the reference sectioned drawing i had ,i noticed the cartridge position and was able to check ,
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    Whilst I would whole heartedly agree that this type of item, as with all ordnance, should be checked carefully please let us not scaremonger. I have handled and examined two or three dozen examples of this model of Granatenwerfer over the past few years and not one has had a live cartridge in the tail. Admittedly my personal experience, but clearly the term 'nearly all' is alarmist.

    BD

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    Totally agree with you BD ,
    and just to clarify i did say in my first post that there was no cartridge ,when you look through the tail tube with the fuze removed you can see all the way through,going by the drawings this also indicates to me that the piece the cartridge fitted into has been chopped ,as on the drawing it looks to be a sealed end..

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    Granatenwerfer Launcher

    This is the first pattern, kind of scary !
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