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Variations of German long Delay fuze type (17)

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I was reading through the excellent BOCN threads and realised that their was no mention of the variations of German long delay fuze type (17)

The very early (17) had external clocks and had two charging pins , as the clocks were prone to the ingress of moisture and to try to quiten the clocks a Rubber band was fitted to these early fuzes see picture 1

Next came Emergency pattern , which consisted of a Steel upper sleeve , due to the shortage of Aliminunium at the time , These fuzes had just 1 charging pin see picture 2

next was the 1940 pattern in which the clock was sleeved in an Ali tube that was threaded for the gaine see picture 3
after that came the 1941 patt in which the clock was housed in a plastic sleeve see pictures 4 and 5

There were unmarked Fuzes , which were found to be the ordinary type (17) fuze and were treated as such .

One further type (17)B was a much shorter time delay of 132 minutes as against the more normal 72 hour clocks
 

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Great info and smashing pictures Steve!,thanks for those.:top:
I did wonder what the sketch was with that one pin?,i wouldnt have thought they could charge with one pin but you are the man on these!
Any chance of close ups of body stamps and the tops please?:tinysmile_twink_t:
cheers

waff
 
Hi Paul there was only one circuit so no need for two pins ,
he head markings are normal will try post some later
 
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Hi Paul
On the Early (17) head the markings were Ei.A.Z (17) Rh.S and maybe But not all had batch Numbers .
On the clock housing the markings were RhS4e 1939 L Zt Z (17) and FM 2A 40

the markings on the 1940 patt are EiAZ (17)A Rhs 1940 batch number 2a and a waffenampt stamp No56 on the protruding sleeve bp 2a 41

the (17)B* the markings are in ink on the top part on the sleeve are bmv 16a * 42

Hope that helps paul
 
Hi Dave
Yes they form part of my collection , glad you liked the thread
Picture 1 shows what the fuzes looked like new , nice and shiny , that one was polished every week for about 50 years , it was liberated from a bomb dump in Germany in 1945 by the sapper who sold it to me .
 
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I have another version of the 17 Fuse witha LZtZus Z 17
 

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Hello Hartkern
The fuze you have is the original No (17) fuze produced by Rheinmettall at their Sommerda plant , if you look at my picture no 1 you will see your fuze , in the picture mine has the rubber band over the clock.
 
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Thats a great looking fuze Hartkern and with some excellent stamps!
Thanks for showing it.
cheers

waff
 
And here are a few more shots of the type 17 in post#11...:tinysmile_twink_t2:
cheers

waff
 

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And here it is pictured alongside a 17A and an 34B(to go in another thread shortly)


cheers

waff
 

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I was reading through the excellent BOCN threads and realised that their was no mention of the variations of German long delay fuze type (17)

The very early (17) had external clocks and had two charging pins , as the clocks were prone to the ingress of moisture and to try to quiten the clocks a Rubber band was fitted to these early fuzes see picture 1

Next came Emergency pattern , which consisted of a Steel upper sleeve , due to the shortage of Aliminunium at the time , These fuzes had just 1 charging pin see picture 2

next was the 1940 pattern in which the clock was sleeved in an Ali tube that was threaded for the gaine see picture 3
after that came the 1941 patt in which the clock was housed in a plastic sleeve see pictures 4 and 5

There were unmarked Fuzes , which were found to be the ordinary type (17) fuze and were treated as such .

One further type (17)B was a much shorter time delay of 132 minutes as against the more normal 72 hour clocks

Great examples steve.
On your picture 3 which i think is the 1940 pattern,i am just finishing
the restoration of mine but it is dated on the switch block 1942.

would the 1940 pattern have come in as late as 42 with possibly production over run, as the 41 patt should have been out by then.

Best phil
 
Cheers Phil,
It prolly just needs a bit of a buff up with some scotch pad and oil?
Im afraid its on the long list of `must does` though!





best


waff

btw,i will bell you later about the 67`s:call:
 
The electrical circuit, I thought, was of the charged capacitor/bleed down type of delay- but, that wouldn't require a rubber band to quiet it down- how did this fuze work?
 
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