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    I somehow feel that I'm going to really enjoy delving into the history of these interesting little rounds and the different weapons they were used in

    There are several books that cover these that I'll need to acquire,and I don't doubt there is much valuable info in previous posts in these forums,
    and more yet to come,as in this thread.

    I have various snippets floating around at the the back of my mind,the British army weren't interested in these weapons,until they wound up on the receiving end from the Boers,who were!!!

    Widely used,I believe,by many navies as anti torpedo boat weapons,and I
    think,many different guises in WW1,land use AA,and even a lightweight
    frontline weapon for German stormtroopers.

    All in all,this promises to be a fascinating little project.

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    I have 3 different German WW2 case type catalogues, from Polte dated 1943, DWM dated 1942 and an unknown ( could be official army catalogue? ) dated 1942.
    They all describe a 37x94 R case ( number 6333 ). So, at least the factories had these in programme, but I have never seen any WW2 dated cases and don't know if they ever were made during WW2.
    Last edited by Tmine35; 3rd February 2009 at 01:21 PM.

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    Go to this posting in Projectiles

    Particularity by 37mm Hotchkiss

    about page 6

    Andre' Durieux

    for ww2 German 37x94. contact him for more details.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tmine35 View Post
    I have 3 different German WW2 case type catalogues, from Polte dated 1943, DWM dated 1942 and an unknown ( could be official army catalogue? ) dated 1942.
    They all describe a 37x94 R case ( number 6333 ). So, at least the factories had these in programme, but I have never seen any WW2 dated cases and don't know if they ever were made during WW2.
    It would be an interesting case to find if it turned up.

    Gspragge: You mentioned WW2 German 37mm Sub Calibre rounds. Do you have any examples?

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    37mm headstamps?

    Quote Originally Posted by doctor View Post
    To complete
    119 is for Marine case, 119 A for ARMY (Used in FLAK)
    Hello Doctor,
    One of my 37mm's has headstamp marked;
    M (with crown above)
    C/97.98.
    III 1904 (with crab/flower/bomb, ? below)
    KARLSRUHE
    117

    I believe the crowned M is the acceptance mark for the Navy, and the factory was Karlsruhe Patronenfabrik which was a major manufacturer from late 19th centuary to WW1? Can anyone tell me anything about the other marks, particularly what the little crabby thing is called? The primer has no marks.
    The projectile has a percussion fuse marked K, (karlsruhe again?), and two driving bands the lower of which is grooved so looks like three bands. The base of projectile marked VSM
    S Which I'm guessing may be Vickers son and Maxim?

    The other which outwardly looks similar is headstamped;
    K 15
    JUNI 1918
    Sp255 119A

    Primer is marked; Kp 4 18
    Projectile is similar except H on fuse and a single V on the base.
    So the 119A must mean Army?

    Any other information will be gratefully received, I'm waiting for the postman at this moment who should, hopefully, be bringing another projectile!
    Best regards,
    navyman.

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    WW2 German 37x94r

    I don't have these, uncommon. Andre does and may have a post showing them. They were for Navy use in practice subcaliber firing.

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    Hello,
    I have a 37mm round stamped Patronenfabrik Karlsruhe 1917 119A. Nice condition.
    I may donate it to a WWI museum. For tax purposes I would like to know what value it may have, if any.

    I appreciate any estimates or opinions,

    Thanks
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    Donation; Many of us run private Museums here

    Also look on Specialist Auctions for price comparison. The basic kinds are not very expensive.

    about 5 pounds ea I think very common.
    Last edited by Gspragge; 17th January 2010 at 01:44 AM.

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    Roman numbers ( I, II, III, IV, V etc) were used in Germany for naval cases, full date markings for army cases. Who has the oldest naval marking?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thekees View Post
    Roman numbers ( I, II, III, IV, V etc) were used in Germany for naval cases, full date markings for army cases. Who has the oldest naval marking?



    Perhaps i can give some additional informations about these German WW1 "3,7 cm x 9,4 cm" ammo.







    Factories :
    1. LORENZ (little primer) / From [1883 to 1888]
    2. AWS (little primer) / From [1887 to 1900] , and the year 1915.
    3. PatronenFabrik Karlsruhe (little primer) / From [1914 to 1915] / no Lot Number
    4. PatronenFabrik Karlsruhe (little primer) / year 1915 , month february with Lot Number
    5. K (means PatronenFabrik Karlsruhe) (little primer) / year 1915 , month march , April, Mai / with Lot Number
    6. PatronenFabrik Karlsruhe (big krupp primer) / From [1897 to 1906] / with lot Number ; month in roman Letter / typical Imperial Navy (M with crown)
    7. PatronenFabrik Karlsruhe (big krupp primer) / Years [1901 ; 1905 ; 1914 ; 1915 ; 1916 ; 1917 ; 1918 / No month , no Lot Number / stamped 119 A
    8. K (means PatronenFabrik Karlsruhe) (big krupp primer) / Year 1918 from [mai to september] / with lot Number / stamped 119 A
    Last edited by kz11gr; 12th October 2009 at 10:29 PM.

 

 
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