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    Show your 17 PR Rounds

    Ok, so its not a particularly high intellect topic starter, but I hope everyone will participate.....they are fabulous rounds...not to mention the fact they were pretty much the only Allied round able to take on the German Panthers and Tigers head-on.

    Here are my favourites.... repainted at some point, but still great rounds.

    17 PR APDS 1944
    17 PR APC 1943
    17 PR APCBC 1944



    Cheers Rich


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    Re:Show your 17 PR Rounds

    Hmm....don't think the pic uploaded...ill try again



    Post edited by: spotter, at: 2007/06/14 15:29

    Post edited by: bolo, at: 2007/06/14 15:31


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    Re:Show your 17 PR Rounds

    May be repainted Richardb but they are still nice rounds,thanks for sharing them

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    Re:Show your 17 PR Rounds

    I wanted to upload my own 17pr round here too but my wife said there was already enough porn on the net...
    Did the cases of these have specific (paint) markings on the base to ID it for AP or APDS ?
    "all live or dug ordnance shown in my post has been dealt with accordingly by eod personnel"

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    Re:Show your 17 PR Rounds

    Hi lexpev,

    The APDS round was marked with APDS on the bottom of the case, as well as a black band or two parallel bands near the bottom of the case.

    I believe the AP and APCBC rounds were marked AP SHOT on the bottom of the case.

    hope this helps, Rich


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    Re:Show your 17 PR Rounds

    Hi Rich and all others,

    I've seen the black ink markings with the US 57mm rounds (not APCBC),but never with the Brit rounds.
    If you come accross any UK markings let me (us) know. I'm so unknown with these, inform me.
    What do those parralel bands look like?

    And another question.
    What is that blue ring on top of that APDS ?
    Understand white-red-white,know what T does, but blue band?
    De-confuse me!
    Cheers, Lex

    Post edited by: lexpev, at: 2007/06/23 23:36
    "all live or dug ordnance shown in my post has been dealt with accordingly by eod personnel"

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    Re:Show your 17 PR Rounds

    Hi Lex,

    These are the markings on the base of my 6 pdr APDS,ok,not a 17 pdr,
    but I would assume that the markings would be the same.

    If anyone knows otherwise please let me know.

    Cheers,
    Andy

    Post edited by: AndyD, at: 2007/06/24 08:39

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    Re:Show your 17 PR Rounds

    Right, call me a slow learner.
    I found all the info in a 1943 manual, in my own bookcase...
    I'd better start reading the books I buy , then ask questions maybe.

    The drawings that were in this manual are now placed in the \"documents\" section.
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    Re:Show your 17 PR Rounds

    Ref the blue band..im wondering if who ever repainted this round copied the colour scheme from a post WW2 round.A document i have says that from 1948 -1954 blue tips and bands were used on shot to indicate the armour piercing capacity.Light blue indicated Semi-armour piercing(SAP) and Dark blue indicated Armour piercing (AP).Post 1964 british colour coding was standardised and since then Blue has indicated practice (light blue) or drill(dark blue).So going by what ive found my guess is repainted incorectly using coluors found on rounds from 1948-1954.what do you think

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    Re:Show your 17 PR Rounds

    Spotter,

    I think the blue band is correct.
    If you look at the 6 PR APDS projectile AndyD posted, you can clearly see a blue band, and the projectile certainly looks like original paint. Similarly, the documents Lexpev put in the 17 PR documents section, clearly show a 17PR projectile dated '44 and sporting a blue band.

    Exactly what the blue band represents, I don't know. In terms of small arms, the blue band represents incendiary.

    just my 2c

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