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    Lovely projectile Chris.......Wales is calling........
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    Hi all, is the 17 pdr HE and Anti tank bullet expensive??

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    Prices for 17 pounders

    Hi here's a few prices I've seen over the last year for the 17pr rounds, they very a lot depending on condition, date and who is selling it.

    APCBC - between 75 and 150
    APDS - between 250 and 300
    APC - between 100 and 200
    Flat head proof - 75
    Short HE - 200 plus
    Long HE - one went for over 500 a few years ago
    Smoke - never seen one for sale
    Littlejohn - they only ever made a few so they would cost an absolute fortune, I've only seen a design drawing of one!!!!!!!!!!

    The short cases cost more, there is one on the link below for sale.

    http://www.jcmilitaria.com/details.asp?ID=873

    Hope this helps.

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    Hi Waff..here my 17 pounder...not for my collektion..;-)
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    Hi all,

    This is my first post here (I will make an introductory post straightaway). Sorry to add to a very old thread, but I was wondering if anyone knows the identity of the document that MadBomber31 was posting photographs from?

    I have been trying to work out just exactly how many different rounds were available for the 17 pounder and it hurts my head. (e.g. was a timed fuze round available for both full and reduced capacity HE?)

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    Pictures come from:-

    'MAINTENANCE MANUAL FOR THE ORDNANCE, 17-PR., MARK 1 ON CARRIAGE, 17-PR., MARKS 1 AND 1W AND ORDNANCE, Q.F. 17-PR., MARK 5 ON 3-INCH GUN MOTOR CARRIAGE, M10 1946

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    Thank you VERY much, Quatermass!

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    Are the No. 8 tracer plugs in the base of the HE projectiles made of brass or steel? How are they secured to the projectile - threads or press fit? I plan on making a reproduction projectile out of steel, copper and brass. I would also appreciate it if someone had the height and other important dimensions for the shortest HE projectile. Thank you for your help.
    Last edited by M8owner; 9th May 2020 at 06:31 PM.

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    The Plug, Base, Shell No.8 is steel, screw threaded and is made to be removed to take the Tracer Shell No.13 for the all the HE projectiles.
    The HE/T is 9.28", HE/HC/T is 9.94" and HE/Super HC/T is 11.82".
    The only reason for the shell lengths being given in a service publication is because of the commonality of shells with the 77mm tank gun and the fact that certain marks of cased shell were too long to fit into the tank stowage racks and in some cases the bustle was not long enough to permit loading.
    Last edited by AE501; 11th May 2020 at 08:23 PM.

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    Forgive me for asking, but why would you want to fit a Base Plug No.8 to a QF fixed shell, which is only for use at production, to prevent damage or due to a shortage of Tracers Shell No. 13. These would not be seen outside a Royal Ordnance Factory.

 

 
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