Picture from China

[kz11gr]

hello

found on http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Aviation_bombs_at_China.jpg

this picture.

The big bombs are from russian origin ?

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[leeski]

very nice kz11gr the white ones look like british 20 1b bombs

regards lee

 

[US-Subs]

These are Chinese copies, manufactured internally until about the early 1980s. The photo is from the Chinese Air Force Museum just north of Beijing.

 

[US-Subs]

Here is the museum where the photo was taken, went there a couple years ago hoping to find some Japanese stuff, the bombs are the only ordnance of interest. With no ordnance the only other fun to be had was at the far rear of the museum grounds, its an open area and as you go further it slowly turns into the museums junk yard. Not sure if we were supposed to be playing around in the stuff, but as the old military philosophy goes, if it's not expressly forbidden, it must be ok.

 

[HAZORD]

Nice photos. You were evidently on the "Self-guided" tour. I like to take those whenever possible, especially with a camera!

 

[US-Subs]

You get a lot braver when they give you a UN passport.

 

[peteblight]

Isn't the bloke looking at the Projos on the UK's most wanted list???:xd:

 

[waffenamt]

Cracking pics! Is the dodgy bloke me looking out for german stuff? :xd:

W

 

[US-Subs]

You're right Pete, here he is in disguise at the same site. As I said, you get brave -

 

[US-Subs]

Cracking pics! Is the dodgy bloke me looking out for german stuff? :xd:

W

There is nothing German (or Japanese) at this museum, but what is interesting is that at the Military Museum in Beijing there are a number of WWII German projectiles. Some 15cm, some 7.5s, etc. Probably 10-15 total. While there on a photo jaunt for Jap stuff I spoke with the munitions curator and asked him where they got them, he said that all items in the museum came from in-country, they had no budget for bringing things in and did not trade. As far as he knew the items were discovered in-country. The pieces are all (as I recall) unfired and in good condition.

The only reasonable source to my understanding would be that they were brought by the Japanese. But while you might expect them to be trialed in Japan, deployment to China would seem pretty unusual. To my knowledge no delivery systems have been seen, and no German pieces dug that I know of. Thoughts?

 

[gijunkman]

Could the German stuff been post WW2 aid to Comunist Chinese Forces from the old Soviet Union? That could explain its how it came to be there.

 

[US-Subs]

Then there should be some sign of the using weapons - in order to be useful it would have had to been substantial - more than a couple weapons. Looking through the photos in the National Archive, I searched the Korean War, captured enemy materials, and saw plenty of Jap artillery, but no German.