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    French 47mm Afv

    Hi, I know these rounds are common in france but i only have a case.What types of projectile are there ? Thanks in advance!
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    Re:French 47mm Afv

    Hi Tig,

    I recently purchase two French 47mm rounds for the MLE 37 anti-tank gun. (see pic below)



    I believe that the AFV - eg Somua S35 and CharB1 etc used the slightly shorter barreled MLE 35. which used a 47x193 case as opposed to the 47x380 case of the MLE 37 & 39.

    What I don't know, as I have very little information, is whether the MLE 35 used the same projectiles.??

    From the link below on Tony Williams site, i looks like the AP from the MLE 35 (AFV) was different

    http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/tank1.jpg

    Do you, or anyone else have info on the French MLE 35, 37 or 39 rounds?

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    Re:French 47mm Afv

    What a pair of beauties you have there I read somewhere that the mle39 was extremly rare and only the germans used it after occupation in any numbers but it might not be true.
    Saffery had a weird HE round the same as the one you have I wish I could of afforded it bidding started at 100 I dont think it sold.

    I dont mean to butt in but while on the topic of french WW2 shells can anybody give me any info on this round or any info/pics connected with it.
    All i think i know about it is ,its 37mm french WW2 and i think it was used in the long barrel version of the tiny little hotchkiss H39 tank.
    Pics to follow.
    Cheers Daz

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    Re:French 47mm Afv

    Here's the bum of it

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    Re:French 47mm Afv

    Cheers for the posts ,i was e mailed some info by Domi a while back,i can e mail you this info but it cannot be posted due to copyrite.all your rounds are very nice by the way,apparently french tank rounds are scarce even in france,cheers Tony.
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    Re:French 47mm Afv

    Please do it will be deleted after mentally digesting it.

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    Re:French 47mm Afv

    Its for the 47mm gun if you want it,please pm me your e mail,Tony
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    Re:French 47mm Afv

    Daz..
    My conclusion here is from very quick research. OK!

    Id say you projectile is from a French 37mm MLE 1916/18 --- see image on far right in link below

    http://www.quarry.nildram.co.uk/tank0.jpg

    By using the width of the projectile in the pic Id guess the case is 5 times the width of the projectile and therefore roughly 190mm long. ie 37x190R. From my list of cases, theres only 1 that length and thats the British WW1 Vickers C.O.W. 1 pdr. Looking at the head stamp of your case, I can see a Vee stamp similar to the WW2 V acceptance arrow used by the British, Also, I can see that the primer uses the same two U shaped notches for screwing the primer in...that seem to be on all my British Primers....so seems to confirm a British case.

    So my guess is French 37mm MLE 1916/18 Projectile with British Vickers C.O.W. 1 pdr case. :-)

    Let me clarify, I know NOTHING about WWI stuff

    Rich


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    Re:French 47mm Afv

    O.K. i'll put my head above the parapet again with another identification!

    Its a French Navy 'Tube cannon' M1902 (37x201R).

    The projetile is the same as that used in the 37x94R round (as far as I'm aware?).

    The COW gun case is taperd and necked with with a ribated rim.

    Fingers crossed that I've got this one right.

    Quatermass

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    Re:French 47mm Afv

    Cow gun Practise round (37 X 190RR)



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