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    Re:A.P. projectiles illegal?

    Thanks Daz,

    i was thinking a little in the future though.would it be best to have them `struck` by someone who knows what they are doing with them?
    I always think of a post in the forum from Quatermass when he said "one small wrong item could get the whole collection confiscated"hmy:

    that worries me.

    waff
    Last edited by waffenamt; 17th May 2008 at 03:56 PM. Reason: typo

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    Re:A.P. projectiles illegal?

    Hi Waff, you can only be sure a primer is inert if its been struck.

    As far as I know oiling primers is not a guaranteed way to render it inert.

    How can you know if a primers 'oiled' or if oiling even works?

    Quatermass

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    Re:A.P. projectiles illegal?

    Now then,

    i have on very good nfo that...

    You can only have live SAA if you have a section 5 (variation to collect) on an FAC.
    even then you cannot have any larger live ammo with a driveband.
    I hope i got that right as my head was a bit baffled with all the info off Mick!!:S

    Good point Q with the question on unstruck primers.
    the answer is that you dont know if the primer is oiled or not and you have to take the word of the seller.
    The only safe primer is a struck primer.
    Striking an oiled one doesn`t gauruntee its safe.The cart has to be de-greased before a strike to make them safe.

    hope this helps?

    best

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    Re:A.P. projectiles illegal?

    Lets change the topic i'm getting depressed and worried i think every single one of us has got something that would be classed as illegal to own , if the powers that be want to take me to court for owning an antique inert tank shell that i do not have the vehicle to fire it from and i am not using it in a manner that causes injury or distress i say bring it on .

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    Re:A.P. projectiles illegal?

    Well its a damn good topic if you ask me squire?
    I think we should run with it.
    any more input please gentlemen?

    best

    waff

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    Re:A.P. projectiles illegal?

    I dont mind i just worry alot its the same as WW2 deacts which I collect and sell just ignore me as i do my ostrich head in the sand impression.

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    Re:A.P. projectiles illegal?

    Just to add,

    unburnt tracer and unstruck primers,up to press, are ok to own.

    cheers
    waff

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    Re:A.P. projectiles illegal?

    I can categorically assure you that armour piercing projectiles are prohibited items (Section 5) and that whether the round is inert or not, if it is an AP projectile it needs to be not just on a firearms certificate, but one varied for the correct Section 5 Paragraph. The same applies to incendiary, explosive and soft nosed pistol bullets.

    My own FAC is varied for each of the different Section 5 paragraphs such as Sect.5 (1A)e .for AP, (1A)e for incendiary and (1A)g for the separate projectiles.

    I am in the process of writing a short guide to the legalities of ammunition collecting to be posted on this site.

    Regards
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    Re:A.P. projectiles illegal?

    waffenamt wrote:
    Now then,

    i have on very good nfo that...

    You can only have live SAA if you have a section 5 (variation to collect) on an FAC.
    even then you cannot have any larger live ammo with a driveband.


    waff
    I meant to reply to this also.

    You do not need a Section 5 FAC to collect live ammo, just a normal FAC varied for that calibre or calibres. Section 5 is not a variation to collect, Section 5 refers to prohibited weapons and ammunition, everything from machine guns to guided missiles. The relevant paragraphs of Section 5 of the Act are detailed in my previous post.

    Technically I do not believe there is a calibre limit that Section 5 applies to, but it was originally brought in for small arms rounds.

    If you have an FAC varied correctly the oiled primer question does not arise, but I agree it is a worry for collectors of inert ammo.

    Regards
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    Re:A.P. projectiles illegal?

    Hi I am becoming increasingly worried myself,i know of a few people myself, and have seen more on this site who have downsized or disposed of collections,mainly due to fears of legislation.I dont watch tv or read papers so could someone enlighten me about whats in the pipeline.Those of you who have the wont happen to me attitude, should take a look at one of my other main interests,motorcycling.Eu laws on licencing are going to make it nearly impossible for people to gain access to a licence to ride a big bike,without major hassle,something m/cycle groups fought to prevent over a decade ago,without luck.Im sure there are many more examples.Tony:unsure:
    Always seeking British flares.

 

 
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