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    Russian 76.2mm tank rounds?

    Here is a picture of my two WW2 dated Russian 76.2mm tank(?) rounds.

    However, even when I picked up the first of the two rounds, I wasn't convinced they are actually representative of a round the T34/76 would fire from its F-34 gun....For some reason, I think I've read somewhere that the round from the F-34 gun has a longer case. The cases in this picture are 76.2x385R....were these solely used by Anti-Tank guns.... can any one help??

    I believe the two rounds are designated (left to right)

    UBR-354P - HVAP (Tungsten core)
    UBR-350A - HE



    Have we got any Russian ordnance experts??

    TIA Rich


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    Re:Russian 76.2mm tank rounds?

    Sorry I'm not even close to a Russian ordnance student let alone expert, but excellent looking shells B) .

    Especially like the HVAP shell.

    For what I can understand there was a variety of 76mm tank shells but the most common was the 385.3mm long case.

    Is it hard to find Russian shells?

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    Re:Russian 76.2mm tank rounds?

    Yes, I've been looking for quite a while, and although the 45mm HE round is available in biblical proportions (I've no idea why), everything else is like rocking horse do-do. One thing that is nice, is that the shell cases almost have a gold like appearance, far brighter than the UK/US cases....and non of the issues like German cases.

    Apart from these two, I do have a couple of 45mm rounds, but thats about it

    I must admit, I find more evidence that the case is the right length than otherwise, but no documentation like we have for German, British etc..

    Here's a pic of an HVAP round at the front of a T34/76



    Cheers
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    Re:Russian 76.2mm tank rounds?

    Hi Rich,

    Look at Lexpev.nl he has some doc's from the germans D-50-8 kenn blatter there is some russian stuff in there.
    Cheers Mad
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    Re:Russian 76.2mm tank rounds?

    Hi rich are you sure those rounds are not from the L11 or L36 early short barreled T34 .
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    Re:Russian 76.2mm tank rounds?

    Well tbh, Im short on information.....but since the T34 was made in such numbers, and the fact Ive only ever seen this length of case in 76.2mm dia.....I would seem logical to assume this is the case the T-34 used?
    Yet somewhere, I read it wasn't but I can find that link....and who's to say it was true!!

    Madbombers idea is probably the best

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    Re:Russian 76.2mm tank rounds?

    hi this is a intresting russain round its 1913 and i think a 76 mm brass case

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    Re:Russian 76.2mm tank rounds?

    I thought this would be an easy one to answer, how wrong I was!

    It seems that the 76.2x385R case had a long service life starting with the Russian Model 1900 Gun and being used with 76.2mm divisional gun M1942 ZiS-3 among others.

    The presumption is that the tank gun (L/30.5 & L/41.2) used the same ammo but I cant find any evidence to prove it, which is not to say it wasn't just that I haven't found a source that says it was Arhhh!

    The next thing is should it be described as a tank round or as field gun round (or simply 7.62x385R round)?

    Quatermass

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    Re:Russian 76.2mm tank rounds?

    Well here's a picture of the head-stamp if this is of any benefit. I assume the 44 means 1944....other than that, I guessing even harder!



    Rich


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    Re:Russian 76.2mm tank rounds?

    Hi Richard, any markings on your projectiles? looking in Jane's Ammunition Handbook 1999-2000. The Frag-HE and HVAP-T projectiles are still in production.

    Used with the 76mm divisional field gun M1942 (ZiS3), 76mm mountain gun GP (M1966), D-56T tank gun (PT-76 light amphibious tank), NORINCO 76mm field gun type 54. The projectiles were used with other weapons but Jane's only states those that are still in service.

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