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    2\" mortar markings

    Can someone explain the meaning of D.E.I.L. on this 2" bomb?

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    Re:2\" mortar markings

    Closer view

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    Re:2\" mortar markings

    Infanteer did you ever find what the stampings represented...spotter

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    Re:2\" mortar markings

    No, this is the only place that I have asked so far. Guess there's not a lot of information/interest in these types of details.

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    Re:2\" mortar markings

    I have a similar one. I have been looking at the rest of my 2" mortars and they are marked in a similar fashion. I believe that D.E.I.L. may be a makers code.

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    2" MOR I MW 05 42
    2" MOR I O(or U)G 7/41
    2" MOR I RC (?)
    2" MOR I V&W in diamond 10/41
    2" MOR I MAR in circle 6-41









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    Re:2\" mortar markings

    Ahhh, okay... now we're getting somewhere. A maker's mark, that makes sense. I might have been able to figure that out if I had more examples to examine. Thanks MissingSomething

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    Re:2\" mortar markings

    Here is some info from another forum that I posted this question to..... still lookin for answers...



    2 inch Bombs were made in most British Empire countries;
    The MW could be SAAF factory # 6, Welchpoole, Western Australia, and the MB could be Bendigo Ordnance Factory, Victoria, Australia. The Australian Munitions system used a coded "telegrafic" address, using the first letter "M' signifying "Munitions" and the second/third letters identifying the actual factory, usually by the name of the Town or district it was situated in.
    It all started back in 1912, when the SAF Lithgow got the telegraphic address "MA" meaning "Munitions-Australia"; at the beginning of WW II, this system had expanded to include all the existing and newly-opened Munitions and Ordnance plants. (MA, MB, MBO,MY, MF,MG,MH, MJ, MQ, MW , Ms, and about another twenty more combinations; these codes were restricted to Government owned plants...commercial contractors used their own "letter Logos".

    Some of the other marks could possibly be UK makers; There are some members who would know about these in more detail...in Australia, the mark should indicate which factory actually "Filled" the bomb, not necessarily who made the casing: (most Aussie 2 and 3 INCH MORTAR BOMBS are marked "MY"...St Mary's Factory, Sydney, which both made explosives, primers, Fuzes, and filled larger ordnance.

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    Re:2\" mortar markings

    There's a book called British Small Arms of ww2, the complete reference guide to weapons, makers codes contracts 1936-46
    by Ian Skennerton, selous books ISBN 0949749095. This book has a list of manufacturers that will help with the initials found on the bombs.

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    Re:2\" mortar markings

    Infanteer, MissingSomething,

    If you can check the fins and/or other parts of the mortar there should be letters stamped or embossed thereon. If you let me know what they are I might be able to identify them and we should be able to ascertain from what part of the world they originated. The letters on the bodies are the monogram of the facility manufacturing the body. With the notable exception of cartridge cases and primers the details of the filling facility are invariably painted on.

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    I've never seen Skennerton's book, any idea of how comprehensive it is? I have access to the 1946 list of monograms but notwithstanding it is an official publication it is incomplete and I've found a number of inaccuracies. However, there are well in excess of a thousand entries.

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    Re:2\" mortar markings

    Well here are the tail marks.....

    2" MOR I MW 05 42 tail - 2 FD Ltd 9 40 Z

    2" MOR I O(or U)G 7/41 tail - 11 FD Ltd 1940 - 3

    2" MOR I RC (?) tail - C.W.S. 1941 z & TA&S 7/41

    2" MOR I V&W in diamond 10/41 tail - K 9/41 Z

    2" MOR I MAR in circle 6-41 tail - 1941-9 MAR in circle
    ( I have 2) tail - 1941-9 MAR in circle

    2" MOR I D.E.I.L. 6/43 tail - G in circle 4/45

    ILLG WITH PARACHUTE IFS FEB 43 LOT 256 tail - BDC 8 42 Z

    2" MOR. II Wt/C. 6/43 LOT 2361 S.R. 269 tail - PC in shield 1942 Z



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