Rules please read before posting

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The British Ordnance Collectors Network does not accept any liabilty for items identified on site,all identifications/information should be used as a guideline only,especially with ground found items e.g metal detector finds.

The following information should always be undertaken in the event of a find or unsure item of possible ordnance etc in the UK.

Contact the police and they in turn would have an EOD unit call and sort it out for you.

This process is not there to get you into trouble but to ensure the safety of the public and its been in place for many years. To be honest, the police are not normally interested in you or the item unless you nicked it, they are looking for it, got from dubious means or causing a major incident etc (not all listed). However, this is the first port of call and ultimately it is in place to keep the public safe and could stop someone else loosing there fingers or other bits etc should this item be unsafe / live.

The EOD Unit are the experts and are the only people in the UK that can deal with such items OFFICIALLY oh yes they will do some accounting paperwork and that is that.

Please do not throw it away as that WILL cause problems do the right thing and call the Police.

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The following also apply...

POSTING IMAGES OF LIVE OR RECOVERED ORDNANCE IS NOT PERMITTED ON BOCN
For Public safety reasons BOCN does not encourage or promote searching for ordnance either with metal detectors or other means unless trained and employed legitimately to do so

Only Ordnance approved Members can post images of live or recovered ordnance
The posting of live or recovered ordnance is not permitted unless you are "ordnance approved" no matter how small or how complete the item is and includes surface ,ground or water finds.
Ordnance Approved members are persons who are employed or have been employed in Legitimate ordnance clearance or EOD for professional companys or governments.

The only exception is Historical images ,news articles etc.

Discussion in detail of EOD procedures, or other inerting techniques is not permitted on site even by members who are "ordnance approved"

Do not discuss in detail any explosive compositions on site

No discussion or displaying of material to do with IEDs.This also applys to Ordnance Approved members.

Do not disclose exact locations of current or scheduled clearance tasks,or other locations where
ordnance may be found by the general public

This ruling was implemented for public safety and security reasons

Failure to abide/agree with this rule will result in removal of the images/posts and if repeat breach of this ruling occurs the member will be banned from BOCN

If you think you qualify be in the "ordnance approved" group please contact me via PM with your details
Ordnance Approval will only be considered for members who have been active on site for 4 weeks or more

LIVE FIREARMS
Following discussions with BOCN moderators it has been decided that "Posting images of privately owned LIVE firearms is not permitted on BOCN".
We appreciate laws relevant to the posession of Firearms/weapons are different from country to country ,but this is a BOCN rule
The only exceptions are images showing military or other official personnel (police etc),
Historical photographs ,
museum collections,
deactivated weapons are permitted on site providing images of deactivation stamps/ the deactivation certificates are also shown in the post
Blank firing/other firearms used by legitimate re-enactment groups are also permitted.
Please state which category your weapons fall into,blank firing,deactivated ,replica etc etc and when and where possible a picture to prove this
failure to abide by this ruling will result in the post been removed without any notification.
This ruling comes into effect from today 05/12/09 previous postings will not be affected

Reporting live ordnance
Within the UK we have a system in place for reporting suspect items of Ordnance, wether dug up, found, in a collection or shop etc etc.

First of all, contact the Police, they will put in place a system to have the item removed or destroyed by an EOD team that are always on 24/7 standby for the public safety (its their job, so dont be sorry).

In the event of it being free from explosive they do have the jurisdiction to hand back to you as it is your property and not theirs unless it has explosive inside (or unless you have stolen it).

Don't worry about speaking with the Police, rather you be safe than loosing parts of your body and it gives them something different to deal with. They will not arrest you (normally) or put you in court unless you are doing something very dodgy / terrorism / working outside normal rules of FAC and/or explosive handling, producing something nasty, have a launch mechanism for a missile (please check home office guidance or policeguidelines).

The above is for UK but other countries will have similar procedures in place


CopyrightedRestricted Material
Could all members please be carefull when posting images from other souces.If the image has "copyright" or other writing on it saying it is from elsewhere please ask for the image sources permission before posting them on BOCN.
All material posted to BOCN, unless explicity stated grants BOCN full rights of use, however the content remains the responsibility of the poster.
This is not just for the benefit of the site it is for your benefit as well ,the last thing i want to see is someone getting prosecuted for copyright theft
If you post a copyrighted image please state "you have permission to use the image" otherwise the image will be removed
all images/documentation which may be subject to copyright law is posted by members at their own risk and BOCN will not accept any liability for items posted or any action taken against the image/document poster

Ref military restricted documents
No displaying of current classified material (even RESTRICTED). For British protectively marked material 'current' is generally taken to be anything under 30 years old (there are exceptions as some documents do get released for public use,if in doubt contact one of the Ordanance Approved super moderators).

SALES/WANTED ITEMS
Can all members please NOT post items for sale in the general forums (this includes the TIP OFF section) and use the "Classified" section which is located top centre of your screen
.Any items listed for sale/trade or wanted in the general forums and not in classifieds or the wanted items section will be removed by admin/moderators without notice

Ref Classifieds section...

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• Your ad does not contain any inappropriate or otherwise harmful content.
• Your ad is for inert items only and not for Live Ordnance or Live Components in any form.
• No parts requiring licensing in the form of a firearms certificate or other license are to be sold.
• Deactivated weapons must be sold accompanied with a proof house deactivation certificate ,of which a copy must be included in the sales post .
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OFF SITE IMAGE HOSTING
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I am having to post this reminder due to recent posts of live or recovered ordnance posted by members who are not ordnance approved.

POSTING IMAGES OF LIVE OR RECOVERED ORDNANCE IS NOT PERMITTED ON BOCN
For Public safety reasons BOCN does not encourage or promote searching for ordnance either with metal detectors or other means unless trained and employed legitimately to do so

Only Ordnance approved Members can post images of live or recovered ordnance
The posting of live or recovered ordnance is not permitted unless you are "ordnance approved" no matter how small or how complete the item is and includes surface ,ground or water finds.
Ordnance Approved members are persons who are employed or have been employed in Legitimate ordnance clearance or EOD for professional companys or governments.

Posts of such items posted by members not who are not ordnance approved will be deleted without any notification
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