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    Question 7.62x51mm NATO Ammunition RG Headstamps

    I have a few 7.62x51mm NATO Rounds manufactured by RG (Radway Green) but I’m having difficulty understanding the meaning of some headstamps?
    RG 82 L13A1 - BLANK
    RG 98 (+) COMP - 155 grn Sniper MATCH
    RG 99 (+) L5A3 - TRACER (775m Trace)
    RG 05 (+) L42A1 - 155 grn Sniper MATCH
    RG 06 (+) L42A3 - 155 grn Sniper MATCH
    RG 07 (+) L42A2 - 155 grn Sniper MATCH
    RG 07 (+) L44A1 - 144 grn Ball
    RG 07 (+) L45A1 - 144 grn Ball
    Is there a published list of the L designators for RG ammunition?

    I have a quite a few 7.62x51 inert, fired & live rounds (single & belted) which are up for swaps, if anybody is interested contact me using PM.

    I’m currently looking for RG rounds from years 70, 72, 73, 81, 83, 84, 86 - 89, 96, 97, 00 - 02 & 09.
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    Here is a list of some L-Codes. Unsure if it is all of them but hope it helps.

    Round Drill
    L1A1
    L1A2

    Round Ball
    L2A1
    L2A2 Strengthened case
    L2A3 Modified Cap composition
    L2A4 Ball Powder
    L11A1 Raufoss Norway
    L15A1 Hirtenberger
    L16A1 Raufoss
    L17A1 FFV*
    L18A1 Hirtenberger*
    L19A1 SFM*
    L20A1 FN*
    L21A1 FNM
    L22A1 Raufoss*
    L30A1 MEN*
    L37A1 FNM
    L38A1 Match Ball
    L40A1 ?
    L42A1 Match Ball
    L42A2
    L42A3

    Round Inspection
    L3A1

    Round Practice Ball
    L14A1 DAG plastic short range

    Round Tracer
    L5A1 1000metre trace
    L5A2 Bright ignition
    L5A3 775 metre trace
    L5A4 Ball powder
    L5A5 Modified ballistics
    L23A1 FFV*
    L24A1 Hirtenberger*
    L25A1 SFM*
    L26A1 FN*
    L27A1 FNM*
    L28A1 Raufoss*
    L29A1 MEN*

    Round Proof
    L4A1

    Cartridge Grenade
    L1A1
    L1A2

    Cartridge Blank
    L10A1 FN
    L10A2 FN
    L13A1 Lightened Case
    L13A2
    L13A3
    L14A1 MEN
    L31A1 Hirtengerger
    L32A1 FN*
    L33A1 FNM*
    L34A1 MEN*

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    L codes

    Falcon NZ - I think the basis of your list probably came from me, as it contains the same error as was in the list I originally published. The Blank L10A2 was not made by FN, but was the first British made blank at RG.

    Recent additions to the list are:
    Ball
    L44A1 RG
    L45A1 RG
    L46A1 CBC Brazil

    Blank
    L13A4 RG
    L43A1 RG
    L? CBC Brazil

    Eagle Eyes - I need live rounds of L42A1, L44A1 and L45A1 if you have them. (I have a suitably varied FAC) Are you an ECRA member and are you going to Bisley next week?

    Most of your headstamps are explained in the above list, but the "RG COMP" was a match round that was a forerunner of the L42 with a 155 grn boat tailed match bullet. The difference between the L42A1, A2 and A3 is the supplier of the powder and primers. I have the list somewhere of which was which but cannot remember at the moment.

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    The L40A1 is based on the SAP 5.56mm SS109 round, with a hardened steel element in the nose. It's been NATO qualified but (last I heard) not bought by anyone yet. Not much call for it in A'stan.

    The UK does have a habit of introducing a new designation for every variation (inc different suppliers) in case, primer, propellant and bullet, and apparently picking the numbers at random...

    The latest 5.56mm ball round in service is the L17A2...just a different supplier for primer or propellant (I forget which).
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    Thanks TonyE for the info.

    Are RG: COMP, L42A1, L44A1 & L45A1 all 155 gr FMJBT Match Rounds or are they different in some way?

    Is Match the same as Sniper ammunition or just produced for the civilian market?
    Last edited by EagleEyes; 2nd November 2009 at 08:27 AM.
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    Tony.
    It was you and if I had been able to remember who it was when I posted I would have credited you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Williams View Post
    The L40A1 is based on the SAP 5.56mm SS109 round, with a hardened steel element in the nose. It's been NATO qualified but (last I heard) not bought by anyone yet. Not much call for it in A'stan.

    The UK does have a habit of introducing a new designation for every variation (inc different suppliers) in case, primer, propellant and bullet, and apparently picking the numbers at random...

    The latest 5.56mm ball round in service is the L17A2...just a different supplier for primer or propellant (I forget which).
    Hi Tony,
    The latest 5.56mm ball in service is the Swiss manufactured L21A1.
    Cheers
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    Jeez, I can't keep up with them all.....I hope someone is keeping a running score!

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    Quote Originally Posted by EagleEyes View Post
    Thanks TonyE for the info.

    Are RG: COMP, L42A1, L44A1 & L45A1 all 155 gr FMJBT Match Rounds or are they different in some way?

    Is Match the same as Sniper ammunition or just produced for the civilian market?
    Sorry, but I thought I had answered this, but obviously my addled brain mislead me!

    Only the L42 is a 155grn target/sniper load. The L45 and L46 are normal ball rounds with standard 144 grn bullets AFAIK.

    The L42 is supplied to the military as match and sniper ammunition and was also supplied to the National Rifle Association for civilian use.

    However, this is no longer the case as the NRA now use RUAG match ammo from Switzerland.

    Regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Williams View Post
    Jeez, I can't keep up with them all.....I hope someone is keeping a running score!
    These rounds first showed up on our ranges in 2007 also with a blank version,neither had L Nos, ball was headstamped T 07-7 and nato mark,the same year they were headstamped T L21A1 07 and nato mark,have never come across a L No blank,at present it seems we are using the ball "T's" but have gone back the using RG manufactured L18A1 blank.
    These ball rounds also come with the horrid grey plastic chargers you may have seen about!
    Cheers
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    Last edited by smle2009; 10th November 2009 at 03:57 PM. Reason: spelling error

 

 
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