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    Question 12.7x99mm NATO - .50 BMG Rounds

    Here is my collection of 12.7x99mm NATO .50 BMG rounds.
    I was wondering if anybody could identify the Country, Manufacturer, Projectile and Usage?
    Is there a good book or website that could give me this information?

    Round 1
    Headstamp: L C 4
    Projectile: Silver Tipped, Copper with Steel Core
    Manufacturer: Lake City Ordnance Plant, USA
    Date: 1944
    Note: M8 API (Armour Piercing Incendiary)

    Round 2
    Headstamp: DM 43
    Projectile: Blue Tipped, Copper with Steel Core
    Manufacturer: Des Moines Ordnance Plant, USA
    Date: 1943
    Note: M1 Incendiary

    Round 3
    Headstamp: T Z 77
    Projectile: Blue, Red & Black Tipped, Copper with Steel Core
    Manufacturer: Israeli Military Industries, Israel
    Date: 1977
    Note: APIT (Armour Piercing Incendiary Tracer)

    Round 4
    Headstamp: T Z 77
    Projectile: Blue & Black Tipped, Copper with Steel Core
    Manufacturer: Israeli Military Industries, Israel
    Date: 1977
    Note: API (Armour Piercing Incendiary)

    Round 5
    Headstamp: У Л 7-71 (Hebrew)
    Projectile: Green & Black Tipped, Copper
    Manufacturer: Israeli
    Date: July 1971
    Note: API (Armour Piercing Incendiary)

    Round 6
    Headstamp: K S 43
    Projectile: Copper with Steel Core
    Manufacturer: Allegany Ordnance Plant, USA
    Date: 1943
    Note: M2 Ball

    Round 7
    Headstamp: K 76 .50
    Projectile: Copper with Steel Core
    Manufacturer: Kynoch, UK
    Date: 1976
    Note: 12.7x77mm Spotting BAT (Battalion Anti Tank) Round, M33 Ball
    Weapon: L6 Wombat - light 120mm recoiless anti-tank weapon

    OK the last round is a lot shorter, any ideas?
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    7th one is a Kynoch .50 spotting round
    1st is a Lake City USA .50 AP WW2
    2nd Dominion API WW2
    3rd & 4th no idea as to manufacture but probably 12.7 APIT & AP
    5th & 6th No idea
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    .50

    OK here we go.
    1. Lake City Ordnance Plant, 1944, M8 API
    2. Des Moines ordnance Plant. 1943, M1 Incendiary
    3. Israeli Military Industries, 1977, APIT
    4. Israeli Military Industries, 1977, API
    5. Lapua, Finland, July 1971, probably API
    6.Allegany Ordnance Plant, 1943, M2 Ball
    7. Kynoch, 1976, M33 ball.

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    Isn`t #5 a Isreali HS ?

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    Exclamation Russian Alphabet У Л = Y L

    I may have misled you as the headstamp on Round 5 is I think Eastern European (Russian) or Middle Eastern (Hebrew) as it uses a different alphabet which I think may be
    У Л translates to Y L or ЦП to T T. I didn’t think Lapua in Finland would use such an alphabet, please see image for Round 5.
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    OOPs

    It serves me right for looking at the listing and the title and not the images!

    No.5 is definitely Israeli. I identified it from the "KP" which is Lapua. It is Hebrew by the way, not Russian. I also did not look at the picture of No.7, the .50 Spotter (BAT). Mea culpa!

    The .50 Spotter should not have a ball bullet. It should have a two coloured tip.usually yellow and red, but there were dozens of different colour combinations on the development rounds. It has probably just had a M33 ball bullet put in the case.

    Attached are a few examples of Kynoch .50 BAT rounds.

    Sorry about the confusion,
    TonyE
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    Last edited by TonyE; 27th October 2009 at 08:40 AM.
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