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    I have an example of each of the three. They look exacty the same from the outside. The t49E1 is the only one with any markings, and it is cad plated gold color, whereas the other two are aluminum/pot metal color.

    I downloaded this manual from Lexpev's site some time ago.
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    Butterfly your timing is a little off, I'm just finishing packing to return to the NL. Someplace I have some photos of very early M83s and fuzes from Picatinny with dates and lot numbers, you will have to remind me later this weekend.

    Fortunately, however, my hard drives with the latest Archive searches are just getting packed - your Vietnam questions answered.
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    Will do just that, this is a totally new area for me, I know a little about the M83, but as far as actual dates of development/sub-marks on fuzes/and deployment, I'm pretty much in the dark.

    Many thanks for your photo-excellent!! that is just the kind of evidence I'm looking for- would then appear that the US version had a much longer service history than the SD2. Also shows that it was still very useful into the late 60's. Do you know if they were used extensively or on a limited basis in Vietnam? (sorry, I tend to find when one question gets answered it throws up several more!!!)

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    Not the best photo Kev but here is one found in the 90's
    Thankyou Mad !!!
    Another excellent photo, evidence of use in Vietnam. Also looks to be as deadly as the day it was dropped!
    thanks for your help
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    I have an example of each of the three. They look exacty the same from the outside. The t149E1 is the only one with any markings, and it is cad plated gold color, whereas the other two are aluminum/pot metal color.

    I downloaded this manual from Lexpev's site some time ago.
    Thanks for that Hazord, would love to see some pics if possible some time, however the descriptions you have given are very useful.
    I take it that the T149 is the early version of the M83 ?

    As regards Lexpev , very useful site for information, have looked at that site too, but for anyone who hasn't it is worth checking out!

    Many thanks
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    U.S. butterfly wings

    Just because I'm ignorant on the subject, I have recently seen a set of butterfly wings in good shape at a gunshow, no bomb or fuze just the wing and they were marked wit a T# that I dont rember. Any way to the point the fella wanted $60.00 for them was that a good price?

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    We are getting back to the question of prices and what is good / bad, and only you can answer that. Are you likely to see another set with T markings? No. Would I have paid $60 for them? Yes, but I spend a lot of money on things many people believe is crap. I have never seen a T marked set of wings for sale, and would be pleased to have them.
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    US-Subs, Actually I'll see the guy tomorrow. These are not something I intend to collect, but could be used for trade, as trade is better than cash sometimes. As for spending lots of money on what other people might consider junk, that's how I came up with my screen name.

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    Sorry about the mistype. The fuze I have is a T49E1, early version of the M131 fuze as Steve mentioned earlier and is listed on the documents I attached.
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