PE No.2 and Nobels 808 sizes?

**turpin42** · 23rd July 2010, 12:09 PM

Hi all
I'm thinking about making up a few dummy sticks and have had no luck finding original paper wrapping to either PE No.2 or Nobels 808.
Can anyone help with sizes of the paper wrappings?
Looked around on the net and found that Nobels 808 stick was 3" x 1 1/4" but the sizes of the PE No.2 seem to vary quite a bit.
Also missing the the text on the bottom of the Nobels 808.

NOBEL'S EXPLOSIVE
No. 808
Alfred (LOGO) Nobel
Glasgow
THIS EXPLOSIVE IS ONLY TO BE USED
???????????

Hope someone out there can help

All the very best
T42

**Yodamaster** · 23rd July 2010, 12:34 PM

Dimensions of Nobel 808 :
Length : 7,62 cm
Diameter : 4,49 cm
Weight : 113,4 g

Dimensions of PE No 2 :
Length : 19,5 cm
Diameter : 3,5 cm
Weight : 226,8 g

Same dimensions as PE No 2 for PE No 3A

Yoda

**turpin42** · 23rd July 2010, 12:41 PM

Cheers Yoda
That was quick!

Thanks again

T42

**Richard709** · 23rd July 2010, 01:10 PM

Originally Posted by turpin42

Hi all
I'm thinking about making up a few dummy sticks and have had no luck finding original paper wrapping to either PE No.2 or Nobels 808.
Can anyone help with sizes of the paper wrappings?
Looked around on the net and found that Nobels 808 stick was 3" x 1 1/4" but the sizes of the PE No.2 seem to vary quite a bit.
Also missing the the text on the bottom of the Nobels 808.

NOBEL'S EXPLOSIVE
No. 808
Alfred (LOGO) Nobel
Glasgow
THIS EXPLOSIVE IS ONLY TO BE USED
???????????

Hope someone out there can help

All the very best
T42

Hi T42,

Hope this helps, PE 2 is an 8 ounce cartridge and is 8 inch long x 1 1/4 dia wrapped in a light brown waterproof paper, The last bit on the 808 label I have somewhere and as soon as i find it I will post. 808 could not be used for tunneling due to the poisonous gases produced on detonation.

All the best

Richard

**millsbomber** · 23rd July 2010, 09:05 PM

This is my example of the PE rapper
http://www.millsgrenades.co.uk/images/soe/soe%20pe.jpg

Dave

**exat808** · 23rd July 2010, 10:32 PM

I have a couple of ICI display boards in my collection plus a few spare cartridges. The 808 wrapper was the same brown waxed paper as many other ICI/Nobel products. PM me if you want close ups of any of the cartridges.

**turpin42** · 27th July 2010, 06:25 PM

Thanks for all the help guys!
Richard, if you find out what the missing text is on the 808, let me know.

All the best
T42

**turpin42** · 28th July 2010, 11:01 AM

Hi all
If anyone wants a go at doing this, here is a PDF in the correct size and with the text copied from a genuine wrapper P.E.No.2.
Width of wrapper 25cm
Length 20cm on the short side, 29cm on the long.
I'll post the Nobel 808 when i get all the info.
Thanks again for all the help.

All the best
T42

**turpin42** · 29th July 2010, 08:32 PM

Thanks to everyone for the help.
Looks good as long as you don't pick it up.
(Paperwrapped wooden core)

All the best
T42

**turpin42** · 4th October 2010, 09:19 PM

Finally found the right looking paper for the Nobels 808.
Thanks to all for the help to get this done!
Paper around a wooden core, nothing that says bang.