What's in the Tin?

[GregN]

Hi all, I picked this tin up a few weeks ago and learned a valuable lesson. Always take pictures before you take things apart.:sad: It took me forever to figure out how to put everything back into the tin. These seem stupidly hard-to-find here in Canada. Even though these are British, I couldn't say no.

Greg

 

[hangarman]

Hi Greg,
Nice tin and contents. Are you sure they are British? I thought MG was Australian? Were the tins issued separatly from the box of grenades or included with them?
Cheers
Hangarman

 

[GregN]

Hi Hangerman, Aussi? I have no idea, I haven't begun to research these yet:tinysmile_angry_t:

 

[Chris 42 RQ]

MG-Footscray.

I could be wrong but I think MG is Australian Ordnance factory "Footscray" and the tin also bears the letters "PV" which is another one I do not recognise-Australian also perhaps?

Very nice tin and contents.

 

[Dronic69]

I could be wrong but I think MG is Australian Ordnance factory "Footscray" and the tin also bears the letters "PV" which is another one I do not recognise-Australian also perhaps?
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Hi Chris,

Yes "MG" does stand for the No 2 Footscay factories:

http://cartridgecollectors.org/headstampcodes.htm

Not sure about "PV", not covered in the above link.

Cheers
Drew

BTW - "Stupid Question" - was there a specific cartridge used for the rifle grenades i.e. "HIZ" as shown above?

 

[paul the grenade]

its a bit strange that the threaded stud is in a square hole?:tinysmile_eyebrow_t
how many are in the tin?
cheers, paul.

 

[GregN]

Hi Paul, there are three base plates in the tin. Each plate has a cardboard "donut" which fits over the threaded stud to protect the stud. There are also dense cardboard plates that separate the individual base plates so that they don't clink together. I assume the rounds all have the same headstamp as I only unwrapped one round of the four in the tin.

Greg

 

[TonyE]

Tin

The H1Z cartridge was the issue cartridge for the cup discharger. (H indicates grenade discharging, 1 is Mark I and the Z for nitrocellulose propellant). The normal charge was 30 grains of ballistite but 31 grns of "Superim" or Hercules 81mm mortat propellant were also used.

The tin exhibits an interesting range of dates. The tin is 1952, the baseplates 1954 and the cartridges wartime stock from 1944.

Regards
TonyE

 

[Bonnex]

Hi all, I picked this tin up a few weeks ago and learned a valuable lesson. Always take pictures before you take things apart.:sad: It took me forever to figure out how to put everything back into the tin. These seem stupidly hard-to-find here in Canada. Even though these are British, I couldn't say no.

Greg

Looking through some 1944 dated Design Department drawings a day or so ago I found one showing a tin holding 3 gas check plates and 4 propelling cartridges for the No 36 Grenade. I remembered Greg's recent posting and was rather surprised to find 'recent' was close to eight years ago! Herewith the drawing: