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    WW1 French 47mm

    WW1 French 47mm round. The headstamp is; 47.R. MA.1.1.6-16 r in a circle , flaming bomb. On the shell, between the driving bands are the marks; D. S in a C (or a circle) flaming bomb. Above the top driving band are the marks; 362.Sp.12.17. The fuze parts are unmarked. Suspicious this is an aircraft round but would like to learn the facts. Feedback is welcomed.
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    Hi FNG61, Nice shell. I was not aware of a 47mm French WW1 round so i'm afraid I can't help on ID but just wanted to comment. I figure it must be kind of rare........Dano

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    Looks similar to a WWI French 37mm anti-balloon round without the weep holes. I would guess the larger size would be for aircraft. Nice round!
    Mike
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    I do have a French WW2 dated case measuring 47x139R60 (very hard to find, like yours!), which is for the Mle1934 AFV but also mentioned as a Hotchkiss revolving gun (website Tony Williams and Big Bore Ammunition). Tony mentions "C19", if he means Construction 1919 your case is earlier.

    Your case is "47 R", where R = Revolver, so I would say it is for the 47 mm Hotchkiss Revolver gun, not for aircraft.
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    Hi



    It's a rare round .

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    Indeed

    This was used in aircraft, the fuze is a Marine Double action type used on 37mm and 47mm. I will attach some images. Cannon from a restored Voisin, also mounted on Seaplanes. You are Very lucky to have found this.

    (the cases are all marked R for revolving cannon, but this projectile is too long for those. It is specific to these cannon as shown)
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    Wow, never heard of this 47 mm aircraft gun! What a great find!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gspragge View Post
    This was used in aircraft, the fuze is a Marine Double action type used on 37mm and 47mm. I will attach some images. Cannon from a restored Voisin, also mounted on Seaplanes. You are Very lucky to have found this.

    (the cases are all marked R for revolving cannon, but this projectile is too long for those. It is specific to these cannon as shown)
    Thanks for the thorough information. Would the base fuze for this shell be the same as in the base fuzed 37s?

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    What is the hole size in the base

    It likely had a tracer element (18mm threaded hole), or a base plate/plug, but I think the former. If the hole is 22mm then likely the base plug. I don't think these were double fuzed.
    But let me know and I will double check.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gspragge View Post
    It likely had a tracer element (18mm threaded hole), or a base plate/plug, but I think the former. If the hole is 22mm then likely the base plug. I don't think these were double fuzed.
    But let me know and I will double check.
    Threaded base opening appears to be 16.5mm.

 

 
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